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Cut and put a comment that Obvious Beta is for examples when the game is almost literally unplayable for everyone and should not be used for complaining about glitches.
Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
According to this article
, the game suffers from a memory leak, which is actually a quite devastating issue. Three reviewers from Polygon and two from IGN hav reported that the game's frame rate significantly dropped until it crashed. The latter site also described the game as "one of the worst running AAA games on Switch". A recent discussion on GameFaqs also has a player complain to have experienced 4 crashes thus far. If all those reports are truthful, then I believe the game does qualify for the trope.
There's a room for thought and may require looking up how many players have reported not running into anything severe. Also it may be a Game-Breaking Bug example.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Another thing: That disclaimer on Obvious Beta appears to have been unilaterally added to the page by Bread Bull on May 9th 2019. Unless there was a previous discussion on the Trope Repair Shop, that paragraph is invalid.
There's an old discussion about Obvious Beta here, where a mod does weigh in a little.
^^ + ^ Bread Bull also attempted a project thread that never left the starting ground.
Sounds like an issue to be hashed out in Trope Talk.
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I don't have the game (yet, it's gonna be a Christmas gift) so IDK how buggy it actually is, but aren't Pokemon games sort of infamous for always being extremely buggy in some way? IDK, it feels weird to call it an "Obvious Beta" by series standards unless the glitches really are just that absurd.
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Haven't played, but I've seen clips of the game running at 5 frames per second in cutscenes and at the start of battles, character models failing at limbs positioning up to Body Horror, failing collision when running into stuff, and surrounding area phasing in and out of existence when moving the camera. Pokemon games can be glitchy, but when SWSH came out people mostly complained about low-res trees.
Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
obvious beta has always felt like a trope with a shaky definition to me because inevitably a lot of things are going to fall in that gray area of "it's buggy, but is it broken enough to qualify as an obvious beta?" that's probably beyond the scope of this discussion but I would say the issues scarvi faces are severe enough to warrant pointing out, especially the memory leaking. there's other things like Body Horror model warping and models appearing in places they shouldn't. a lot of the online discussion of the games has centered around how buggy and unpolished the games are even for pokemon standards.
Then it sounds like it might count.
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Yeah, this does seem like it may be a valid example from all the discourse I've seen (I've seen videos of major animation, physics, lighting, and scripting glitches, along with general performance issues like single-digit framerates from the aforementioned memory leak), but I do also agree that this has dug up a larger issue surrounding the trope as a whole and its vague definition (as well as potential unilateral changes to it) that warrants discussion.
Edited by Dirtyblue929
I think this might warrant further discussion on trope talk. This is getting a bit long so I'll lock it.
Macron's notes
VideoGame.Pokemon Scarlet And Violet:
It was deleted citing "the trope description itself says that the Obvious Beta trope is not meant for a game with bugs and it's only for games that are really unplayable. if it's really unplayable, there wouldn't have been players who finished the game earlier and share spoilers for the ending of scarlet and violet beforehand."
This was added back by a separate troper.
The first paragraph on the Obvious Beta page states "Attention: This trope is ONLY meant for games that are genuinely nigh unplayable at release. A few missing features, oversights and bugs do not count." Only the crashes part counts but I'm not sure if it's common enough to count.
What to do?