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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#47601: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:28:38 PM

I... am not entirely sure of what you mean.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#47602: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:33:49 PM

He/she's saying that your Batman isn't showing Negi traits to show that is indeed Negi.

Kurush from Stockholm Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Desperate
#47603: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:39:05 PM

Got nothing to post here, just need to give a rant so I feel somewhat better.

On the RP front, I confronted Vast on the whole selection of the GL ring, pushing to have Nodoka become the GL instead of Chachamaru. He brushed it off, wanting to have Chacha become the GL because of a sub-plot he had made for her. A sub-plot which had no fucking relevation at all in how you actually become a GL. Well, here's the conversation, starting with those he had selected for the last remaining rings.

[2012-09-02 16:14:21] Vastler75: Red: Raiga he just broke up with his GF & then not long after Vast died, he's suppresing his ANGER now & is taking a toll at the 4th year RP Indigo: Nodoka, yeah has the most "Compassion" of the Normandy Band Orange: Daffy....do i really need to tell why?

[2012-09-02 16:14:56] Kurush: meh, I think at least two fit the bill.

[2012-09-02 16:15:38] Vastler75: & the one that doesn't?

[2012-09-02 16:16:44] Kurush: Honya. I still disagree with that she doesn't get the Green Ring

[2012-09-02 16:16:59 | Edited 16:17:03] Vastler75: cause that's Chachamaru who gets it

[2012-09-02 16:17:29] Kurush: on what cause, really?

[2012-09-02 16:18:01 | Edited 16:18:19] Vastler75: developing her own Will is part of her Story Arc, getting the Ring Symbolize she gains one & a strong one

[2012-09-02 16:18:29] Kurush: which was never the requirement for obtaining a Green Ring to begin with.

[2012-09-02 16:20:04] Vastler75: then why does it's search for WILL-power?

[2012-09-02 16:20:07] Kurush: [august 28 2012 13:20] Kurush:

<<< from a friend of mine: "When the green rings choose a new wielder, they go "[Name] of [Planet], you have the ability to overcome great fear." Not "You have a great will." "You have the ability to overcome great fear." Overcoming great fear is Nodoka's claim to fame, from confessing to Negi before anyone else to stealing Dynamis's key."

By those Canon requirements, what has Chacha done to obtain the ring?

[2012-09-02 16:21:31] Kurush: Only those who have the ability to overcome fear are legitimate for obtaining a Green ring, NOT developing a Will of your own

[2012-09-02 16:31:52 | Edited 16:32:01] Vastler75: & what does getting Nodoka the Green Ring tells from story perspective?

[2012-09-02 16:36:09 | Edited 16:36:30] Vastler75: because if i'm not Mistaken the Green Lantern Ring is the "Symbol of Willpower", i gave it to chachamaru for it to have a meaning for her...giving it to Nodoka because she overcome fear...in a story before this RP, sounds like Chacha's sub-story not having a good pay-off

[2012-09-02 16:37:36 | Edited 16:37:47] Vastler75: when i put her on the Indigo list, i got a second thought of because her Side-Story is "Gaining will" what better pay of that getting the litteral "Symboll of Willpower"

[2012-09-02 16:38:10] Kurush: Because it would never make sense as to why Chacha deserved it more than her. Why was it that you never considered Honya for the Green Ring to begin with? Did you just happen to forget that she has stood up to some of the most dangerous individuals in existence?

[2012-09-02 16:40:43] Kurush: The green corps are selected out of those who struggle constantly to overcome fear. And frankly, Chacha gained her own soul before you made her a Synthesized being, so her gaining her own will just like that is utterly moot at this point. She had been told time and again that she has her own will to live by, despite her programming and that it was up to her to decide how to live by that programming. She was even willing to neglect orders because of her own choices.

[2012-09-02 16:41:36] Vastler75: which wasn't seen that much anyway, this part give her more screentime to does so

[2012-09-02 16:42:05] Kurush: There are more ways than just the Symbol of Willpower to gain ones own will. I must admit that I am disappointed in this choosing.

[2012-09-02 16:43:13 | Edited 16:43:24] Vastler75: also the fact i didn't think of Nodoka is because she wasn't in the line up before your Trailer & we already have 2 Negima girls recieving Lantern rings

[2012-09-02 16:44:28] Kurush: And Negima is the basis of the RP we started out in, isn't it?

[2012-09-02 16:45:03 | Edited 16:46:45] Vastler75: also chacha gaining the Ring is not how she got the Will power, is that the Ring Symbolize her Sub-plot pays-off

[2012-09-02 16:45:38] Vastler75: yes, but we have extended to MANY Series, i just want to give the other series a fair chance to shine

[2012-09-02 16:48:01] Vastler75: *lightbulb* That's it, over coming fear for Chacha...i got it?!

[2012-09-02 16:50:20] Vastler75: Chacha, has soul in Canon...V dies, she fears that V plan to make her Syntetic would made her share fate just like Organics...Death as Machine can't be consider Really dead & can be repaired...now just need to find away to show that

[2012-09-02 16:52:17] Vastler75: Fear of turning Syntetic, over coming it, gaining her own will the Proses & GL Ring..hahaha why didn't i think of that

[2012-09-02 16:52:59] Vastler75: boy, thanks for the pep talk K, now i got a good reason to keep chacha as GL

[2012-09-02 16:53:38] Kurush: That's it? Her overcoming her fear of sharing the same fate as organics just because You died? That's your justification?

[2012-09-02 16:54:31] Vastler75: well that's the Basic, i just need to flesh it out abit

[2012-09-02 16:54:55 | Edited 16:55:05] Kurush: okay, so how come Honya gets the Indigo ring? Maybe she doesn't get one at all. Have you considered that possibility?

Yes, he made us make Trailers for the RP, which I always find pointless in Literature. Furthermore, he went on to call my opposition of his choice a pep talk. Pep Talk! It's not even a good reason to have Chacha get the Green ring at all! Thinking about it last night made my heart literally hurt as if I had a minor cardiac arrest. Fortunately it turned to be the flu.

The only reason I'm not walking out of this goddamn stupid RP is because he's a friend and it's some sort of anniversary for us, not at all based on the Nostalgia Critic's own anniversary. I can however state this: Vast is an idiot and I suppose I can call myself one for staying. And I never did get my answer why he thought Honya deserved the Indigo ring instead.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#47604: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:45:08 PM

Well, there's not really a whole lot I can say to that. I would say that I have... except that the traits I speak of rather strongly overlap with some of Batman's. There's also the fact that, kinda like Bruce Wayne, there's some duality going on here. There's Batman, who is pretty much what you saw... and then there's Professor Negi Springfield, who despite being a stern teacher is a lot more openly caring about others, and genuinely... well, more Negi-like. Whether it's Batman putting on a kiddy facade for his class, or Negi sealing off his emotions when he dons the cowl... that's for the reader to decide.

Immi Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
#47605: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:46:00 PM

@Eva: If not for the use of magic and his noted profession, there would be no reason to believe that this Batman is not Bruce Wayne!Batman before Negi's name comes up.

...Well, besides the meta ones.

Let's say that you switched around Setsuna and Konoka's backstories. There would probably be a lot of changes in Setsuna's personality because of how wrapped up she is in her assumed role in canon, but she wouldn't start trolling people, and there's no reason to believe she'd have an interest in fortune telling.

Even giving Negi a similar background to Bruce Wayne's, he should still be Negi. And canon!Negi did have familiarity with tragedy. Having a different tragedy make him take on the usual Batman's attitude doesn't make a lot sense.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#47606: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:49:06 PM

@Eva:

and then releasing his magic like a canon.
Please tell me you know why I'm bringing this to your attention.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#47607: Sep 2nd 2012 at 10:55:26 PM

rikalous: <stares at the screen and ponders... scratches head, strokes stubble... lightbulb finally comes on> SORA DAMNIT, I meant cannon! Thanks for the heads up, I'll go back and fix that.

Immi: He is like Negi... when he's not being like Batman. If I need to stay up for the next three hours brainstorming a classroom segment to showcase that, then say so.

Kurush from Stockholm Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Desperate
#47608: Sep 2nd 2012 at 11:01:09 PM

[up][up][up] No, I still got the flu. It doesn't go away that quickly. But I feel better now that I got that out of me.

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#47609: Sep 2nd 2012 at 11:05:21 PM

I know how you feel just a few weeks I got sick. What was worse was I got sick on Finals Week. I had a nasty cough that went on for two weeks, talking was difficult. Part of my finals was an oral exam discussion with my Japanese Teacher.

There are no words that can describe how fun that was.

edited 2nd Sep '12 11:39:11 PM by WorldTurtle

Immi Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
#47610: Sep 2nd 2012 at 11:10:43 PM

[up][up][up] I would never say that. Classroom scenes are boring.

What I'm getting at is even though Negi's Batman, he should be his version of Batman. Unless he's specifically modelling himself after Batman, he should have his own way of being a masked vigilante.

[up][up] Have fun with that...

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#47611: Sep 3rd 2012 at 2:09:23 AM

I think we should all give Kurush a group hug.

In Hazmat suits.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#47612: Sep 3rd 2012 at 2:19:21 AM

Fuck that. Hazmat suits are uncomfortable as crap.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#47613: Sep 3rd 2012 at 2:30:31 AM

Well, we have to keep him quarantined somehow.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#47614: Sep 3rd 2012 at 3:21:08 AM

Have we enacted a quarantine over SCM, a veritable sponge soaked in madness and inanity? No! Over Eva, with blood running hot enough to cook pasta in? No! Over Immi, who's apparently some kind of medical mystery? No!

I ask of you, how can we in good conscience do such a thing in Kurush's hour of irritation with that Vastler idiot?

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#47615: Sep 3rd 2012 at 3:25:24 AM

That's why I suggested the group hug! In Hazmat suits.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#47616: Sep 3rd 2012 at 3:28:11 AM

But the Hazmat suits make it less huggy, and more like that dogpile in Monsters Inc whenever someone gets a sock on them.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#47617: Sep 3rd 2012 at 3:34:52 AM

But I'm sure he understands we do it out of love.

UberNimrod "EEEEK!!! CATS!!" "Setsuna? Chill out." from Likely nowhere near you Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"EEEEK!!! CATS!!" "Setsuna? Chill out."
#47618: Sep 3rd 2012 at 3:39:28 AM

[insane troll logic] Well, that explains why I'm missing a sock. I only had a pair of socks to put in the laundry, now I only have A sock. Seriously, WTF?[/insane troll logic]

One of these days, I am going to write a Cannon Negi snippet featuring Autocannon Asuna and Airsoft Ako just to confuse you all.

I get to go out on the road today. Short run, and with any luck I'll be online later today. Whoo hoo.

Madman with a box? I'm a madman with a semi, a pretzel bender and a Heart of Gold!
Kurush from Stockholm Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Desperate
#47619: Sep 3rd 2012 at 4:31:56 AM

[up][up]If you truly were going to do it out of love, you would be skipping the Hazmat suits.

I just needed to get out that rant so it wouldn't boil over to the RP.

[up] Your predicament is more likely due to the Eater of Socks.

edited 3rd Sep '12 4:32:43 AM by Kurush

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#47620: Sep 3rd 2012 at 4:54:32 AM

Wusses, Poyo.

(hugs Kurush, Poyo)

Your friend is being a stubborn idiot, Poyo. Don't worry, you're in the right, Poyo.

edited 3rd Sep '12 4:59:16 AM by SCMof2814

Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#47621: Sep 3rd 2012 at 5:37:05 AM

@Eva Unit 01: The thing is, Negi's backstory is already like that of Batman's. Suffered a tragedy in childhood, spent life accumulating power in attempt to get revenge (no matter what Negi told himself, he would not have gone behind his teacher's backs to learn a spell to kill spiritual entities if he wasn't looking for it). It's just that Negi is ten. He hasn't had time to see how terrible the world can be like Bruce Wayne did prior to becoming Batman. Initially, Negi wouldn't have much difference between his guises. That would come with time. But does Negi even swear?

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#47622: Sep 3rd 2012 at 5:44:46 AM

(Sigh)

Okay, give me some time around lunch and I might be writing a helping treatment for Negi Batman dealing with that continuity premise. It might help you, I guess.

UberNimrod "EEEEK!!! CATS!!" "Setsuna? Chill out." from Likely nowhere near you Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"EEEEK!!! CATS!!" "Setsuna? Chill out."
#47623: Sep 3rd 2012 at 7:08:03 AM

Annnd back.

Apparently when work told me Monday, they meant Tuesday. Lovely, just lovely. Idiots.

I looked at the Ms. Fanservice section. Why is there no Negima! entries in the Anime section? I'll admit that there isn't a lot in the anime, but there is quite a bit in the manga.

Madman with a box? I'm a madman with a semi, a pretzel bender and a Heart of Gold!
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#47624: Sep 3rd 2012 at 7:12:53 AM

The swearing.... yeah, in hindsight, that was a bit much. Non-Indicative First Snippet, Early-Installment Weirdness, what have you.

rikalous: ... I must now go and give you a Crowning Moment Of Awesome entry.

Kurush: By the passionate speech of rikalous, I, Eva Unit 01, shall hug you!

edited 3rd Sep '12 7:23:10 AM by EvaUnit01

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#47625: Sep 3rd 2012 at 9:54:05 AM

[up][up]IIRC, Evangeline had a Ms. Fanservice entry, but it was deleted during the Loli scare.


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