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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#10176: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:07:26 PM

It's a tough balance.

Batman should be an ultimately heroic and generous individual who wants what is best for everyone around him. He should also be a self-loathing mess who has trouble connecting with other people precisely because he can't imagine why anyone would actually give a shit about him.

Bruce Wayne is someone who has nothing but love and compassion for everyone...except himself.

Because he will never forgive himself for insisting that he and his parents go see a movie that night.

Edited by M84 on Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:09:04 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Deranged X-Mas Figure
#10177: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:14:32 PM

[up]...That is one of the best examinations of Bruce's character I've ever seen. If more writers actually went with that portrayal, it'd do wonders for Bruce. Hell, he could even have a damn arc. That being to start forgiving and loving himself, if only because that's what all his friends and loved ones want for him.

Of course, seeing as Batman apparently can't be happy or he wouldn't be Batman (which is ludicrous), that ain't gonna happen. Which is a shame.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#10178: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:22:44 PM

I know that in the comics, Jason was brought back from the dead because, and I'm a little fuzzy on the details, Superboy punched time and altered reality. In Batman: Under the Red Hood Ra's brings Jason back from the dead using a Lazarus Pit, an explanation that makes about 1000 times more sense. In that continuity Ra's hired Joker to create a distraction for Bruce, and then Joker killed Jason, so Ra's felt responsible. I don't know how Young Justice Jason got killed, but it seems that Ra's still brought him back via Lazarus Pit. Actually, we have a paralyzed Barbara, something that is usually Joker's fault, and a formerly dead Jason Todd, something else that is typically Joker's fault, but we barely see any Joker. And, personally, I don't think Brent Spiner's Joker is particularly memorable. The guy is a talented actor, but I vastly prefer John Dimaggio or Troy Baker.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#10179: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:24:20 PM

[up][up]It also handily explains why Alfred has Undying Loyalty to him and assists him in his Batman endeavors.

Alfred failed to help the young Bruce Wayne emotionally work through his loss. Even worse, in the Young Justice continuity he didn't even try because he thought it was inappropriate for a butler to be a Parental Substitute to his master.

On some level, Alfred knows he could have, should have done more. Bruce becoming Batman is a permanent reminder of his failure.

Every time Alfred sees Bruce suit up as Batman, a part of him must wish that Bruce was putting on a doctor's coat instead like Thomas Wayne before him.

Edited by M84 on Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:27:06 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10181: Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:05:59 PM

Doesn't help that Bruce never got any therapy for his problems when he was a child.

Windona Guten Morgen from Trying to leave Gotham (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Guten Morgen
#10182: Jan 23rd 2019 at 11:48:47 PM

Given the quality of Gotham's therapists, that might actually be the lesser of two evils.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#10183: Jan 24th 2019 at 12:04:18 AM

They're either incompetent, evil, or both.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
That guy with the face
#10184: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:28:30 AM

I know it'd be a ridiculously cheap move, but part of me thinks the ninja could be Wally West deep down, kept under control with the chip. Why? No idea, but Death Is Cheap in comics. But yeah, Jason Todd makes a lot of sense too, since we've basically got the full Bat Family in this season minus Damien.

Qui odoratus est qui fecit.
zsmg Title, what title? from somewhere in the world Since: Jul, 2011
Title, what title?
#10185: Jan 24th 2019 at 12:57:42 PM

While I don't think Wally is dead, after all there is no body and he disappeared in an universe where the multiverse and time travel exist. The idea that the red hooded ninja isn't Jason Todd feels like being in denial. Okay a bit rich coming from me knowing what I just said.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#10186: Jan 24th 2019 at 3:58:47 PM

In a AMA on Reddit Vietti and Weismann conformed not all metas are descended from Savage

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. from the lupine den Since: Jan, 2001
This is going to be so much fun.
#10187: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:27:27 PM

I just realized that in Season 2, "The Team" and Justice League are practically a single unit at that point. And we had some pseudo-Outsiders (at least, the runaway kids).

Death is a companion. We should cherish Death as we cherish Life.
Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
That guy with the face
#10188: Jan 25th 2019 at 7:35:50 AM

Yeah, pretty much.

There's the possibility that Wally's in the Speed Force, kinda like how he was in the old Justice League cartoon.

Qui odoratus est qui fecit.
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#10189: Jan 25th 2019 at 7:56:52 AM

[up]×5

Except we did see baby Damian.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#10190: Jan 25th 2019 at 8:07:10 AM

Hey, 'member when Teen Titans GO! made a tribute to Young Justice?

Young Justice returns the favor. (SPOILERS.)

Context (again, spoilers): After tragedy strikes too many times, Beast Boy quits The Team to pursue acting. He gets a pair of Good Goggles and everything literally becomes TTG, but now it's Doom Patrol GO! Not only does it work because Greg Cipes voices Beast Boy in both YJ: Outsiders and TTG, they also got Scott Menville, Khary Payton, Hynden Walch, and Tara Strong as The Chief, Robotman, Elasti-Girl, and Negative Woman respectively. Oh, and the Good Goggles are a big brainwashing plot by one Granny Goodness.

Yowza. surprised

And we should be getting reactions from the TTG crew should be coming in 3...2...1...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 25th 2019 at 11:09:06 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10191: Jan 25th 2019 at 10:21:00 AM

On whether or not there will be a season 4.

Ahead of this weekend's mid-season finale for Young Justice: Outsiders, series showrunners Brandon Vietti and Greg Weisman took to Reddit for an "Ask Me Anything" session, where they dropped some interesting tidbits of information about the future of the DC Universe series.

For those wondering if the show will be returning for a fourth season, that's currently undecided by the higher ups at DC. "We'd love to keep making more seasons," they wrote in reply to one fan's question during the an AMA session. The pair added the #Keep Binging YJ hashtag to their reply, in reference to what became the rallying cry for the series when the series landed on Netflix.

In that same reply, they suggested that a potential Young Justice Season 4 could feature a time jump, since those became signatures of the show in its second and third seasons. However, they stopped short of confirming anything and ended their statement by saying "No spoilers."

Edited by windleopard on Jan 25th 2019 at 10:24:47 AM

zsmg Title, what title? from somewhere in the world Since: Jul, 2011
Title, what title?
#10192: Jan 25th 2019 at 10:35:37 AM

Judas Contract boys, here we come. Didn't expect the Terra nor Granny Goodness goggles reveal this early. Although the Terra reveal did work nicely as a mid season cliffhanger.

Also you're missing some skin there Victor.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10193: Jan 25th 2019 at 11:25:01 AM

[up][up] A potential time jump makes sense. After all, how else are they going to get Damien and Jonathan old enough to do stuff?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
That guy with the face
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#10195: Jan 25th 2019 at 11:38:53 AM

Talia would be so into that.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#10196: Jan 25th 2019 at 11:39:35 AM

Given that there has been a timeskip between every season so far, I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if there isn't a timeskip between Season 3 and the still theoretical Season 4.

CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#10197: Jan 25th 2019 at 12:40:20 PM

Saw Episode 11's end credits. He's coming. I didn't think it was possible. I thought Episode 9's end credits scene was a cruel tease. You are not prepared.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#10198: Jan 25th 2019 at 12:50:50 PM

Granny seems more intimidating as a screensaver brainwasher than just leader of furies.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10199: Jan 25th 2019 at 1:35:12 PM

If Artemis hated her father's last name why did she use it?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#10200: Jan 25th 2019 at 2:51:53 PM

Man, Kyahry Phaton is voicing every character except Cyborg.

I find it a bit weird that Metamorpho, who has traditionally been turned into his present self by Stagg, has nothing to do with the episode where Stagg actually showed up and was probably killed.

Edited by WillKeaton on Jan 25th 2019 at 4:25:53 AM


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