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DonaldthePotholer from Somewhere in (not)Miami
Nov 25th 2018 at 5:10:46 PM

Thus far, I've only watch Roahm Mythril's Blind Run. But from what I've seen, the plot of 11 is fairly decent by any standard, let alone Classic Megaman. The only thing preventing it from being a true Jumping-On Point is a bit of backstory discussion about why Rock became Mega originally like they had in 4.

Nov 27th 2018 at 6:05:15 AM

http://www.rockman-corner.com/2018/02/mega-man-x1-internal-design-document.html

Anybody here sees this? It's a translation of a design document for Mega Man X1 found at the 30th Anniversary Event. It not shows Zero being Wily's robot and the Maverick Virus were planned from the start but also tells about how Zero became hero (he was already super vile in his X4 flashback, the virus did the reverse of what it did to Sigma and turned him into the red warrior we know).

Edited by Maljen on Nov 27th 2018 at 6:12:35 AM

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Nov 27th 2018 at 6:47:39 AM

[up] I just did. If the translation for the designation describing Light and Wily is "classmates", as well as the fact Zero was based on Blues / Proto Man, then I imagine that Inafune intended to have Classic and X be separate continuities despite sharing some characters before The Power Battle and The Power Fighters made call forwards to X.

As to why I think Light and Wily being classmates makes X a separate continuity? The idea of Light and Wily being classmates is from the overseas version, where since the beginning in the Japanese version, Wily was just a competing scientist.

ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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Nov 27th 2018 at 6:50:48 AM

Again with this "separate continuity" lunacy. I think I shot this one down so much in the X9 Discord server.

The X Series being a continuation of the Mega Man story is confirmed since the 90's now, few years after it started, just as X4 showed it to us with cutscenes and X5 with dialogues. I can't understand how people come with this theory twenty years later.

I really wish Oakie was here to flood you with the information you (and probably I) are missing.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Nov 27th 2018 at 12:57:30 PM

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dood9780 Interdimensional Traveler from Chile, Temuco.
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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:04:57 AM

...This the first time I heard this theory of X being supposed to be an alternate continuity at first.

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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:15:03 AM

Not the first time I see it. As I am a customer in an old Mega Man community, I know sometimes people come with this theory. These people tend to get shot down real fast, and all we need is to use what the very games give us.

I think you guys must have heard of the Mega Man X9 community. I'm an old member there.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Nov 27th 2018 at 1:15:48 PM

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JRads47 The Kojima Family from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:18:26 AM

The only headcanon I subscribe to is that X7, X8, and Command Mission are in a different timeline from the Zero/ZX/Legends games.

Edited by JRads47 on Nov 27th 2018 at 10:18:37 AM

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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:24:10 AM

If that weren’t the case I do wonder what role Alia and Axl had in making Neo Arcadia

I could easily see Alia at least being part of the Mother Elf project based on her virus research, specifically the Nightmare. There’s some overlap there

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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:49:57 AM

This reminds me... Isn't Zan a member on TV Tropes? He could give tons of information and debate.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Nov 27th 2018 at 1:51:56 PM

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Durazno All business! from Academia Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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Nov 27th 2018 at 9:50:47 AM

Not much of a debate here.

I will say that while they're clearly linked, they feel like separate continuities because we could have 150 Mega Man Classic games without ever seeing a game that transitions between them. (I suppose you could break it off at some point the way some people say 7 and 8 are separate from the Zero line.)

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Nov 27th 2018 at 6:36:13 PM

Then again, it's the business idea: "if it's so good, why must it stop?" Which is definitely not artistic, by the way.

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Nov 27th 2018 at 6:43:54 PM

I dont know. If the levels and bosses stay interesting, I'd be happy with more of the same.

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Nov 27th 2018 at 7:31:06 PM

Right, I don't object, either. But it means that you can treat them as separate continuities, with the premise of Mega Man X being, "Something that is very much like the classic games happened in the past, but probably not the specific events of Mega Man 23."

Notice that I'm saying "treat as," not "take as the intended canon."

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Nov 28th 2018 at 1:51:39 AM

[up] That's what Broad Strokes means, anyways.

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Nov 28th 2018 at 3:48:37 AM

On what I said about backstory for X contradicting backstory for Classic, it's just a theory I came up with.

Now, the problem being that Inafune bailed from Capcom so if Wily is now retconned to having been Light's classmate before they became roboticists, regardless of whether it's stated in Japan or overseas, I'm fine with that.

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Nov 28th 2018 at 5:00:58 AM

So, despite the Yellow Devil being a horrible return boss (I'd personally have liked to see something new), his weakness is a bust in efficiently damaging him. So does anyone else just resort to buster only in defeating him?

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Nov 28th 2018 at 5:02:51 AM

Did you use power gear with his weakness?

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Nov 28th 2018 at 5:49:35 AM

I use buster only just in general...

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Nov 28th 2018 at 7:40:12 AM

Now I have an evolved hypothesis to the end of the Classic Era and the transition to 21XX and the X era:

  1. Wily nearly completes Zero, but in the process angers Bass so much the black Robot Master decides to speak to Zero and tell him how ungrateful and thankless their father is
  2. Zero in his incomplete/prototype form encounters Rock, but is mindful of Bass's words and doesn't blindly attack Rock. Instead, he TALKS.
  3. His decision set, Zero rebels against Wily and refuses to help him defeat Rock and take over the world. Angered, Wily uses a backdoor to disable Zero and stuffs him in a capsule for over thirty years, only in a twisted mirror of what Light achieved with the morality testing program to ensure X remains sane and upright, Zero's imprisonment is to allow the Virus to fully take control of him and turn him into Omega.
  4. Rock retires from being Mega Man, and he and Roll end up spending the rest of their operational lifespan running the Robot Master Museum after Light and Wily finally die of old age. Blues refuses to let Light try to fix him at risk of losing his individuality, and dies a Free Broken Man. Bass gives up his mission to defeat Rock for good and ends up co-running the Robot Master Museum. Sometime before the X era, an unspecified disaster utterly destroys the city they lived in without warning, obliterating everyone. Light's Lab is buried. Auto survives, living as a humble robot repairman (assigned to a power plant that would later be briefly taken over by Volt Catfish) while his 55th brother (RT-J55) becomes the custodian of one of X's capsules.
  5. Decades later, Cain uncovers Light's Lab and discovers X's capsule, and at the same time, a hidden transceiver picks up the activity and unseals Zero's capsule...

Edited by AceOfScarabs on Nov 28th 2018 at 11:41:55 PM

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Nov 28th 2018 at 1:34:58 PM

I hadn't considered the idea of Zero enduring a reverse of X's capsule. I like that.

Edited by Durazno on Nov 28th 2018 at 3:35:16 AM

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Dec 1st 2018 at 2:22:52 PM

I was wondering if it would be allowed to post a Discord chat link in here. The Mega Man X9 community, to be more precise.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Dec 1st 2018 at 8:23:13 AM

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Dec 6th 2018 at 12:31:18 PM

This has less to do with Mega Man and more to do with Capcom, but Capcom is working on a game that'll surprise everyone.

Already I got some ideas what it might be:

  • Marvel vs. Capcom 4 (VERY unlikely, I admit.)
  • Power Stone
  • Dino Crisis 4 (or Dino Crisis Remake due to certain revelations about dinosaurs?)
  • Mega Man X9 (although this might be the most expected of these choices)
  • Rival Schools
  • Breath of Fire (one that ISN'T a mobile game, please?)

And probably the most unexpected I can think of...

  • Mega Man Legends 3 (it'd be pretty worthy of the "they're bringing that back?!" reaction they're aiming for... )

Anyone betting we'll hear more about this mystery game this E3? Or maybe even at this year's Game Awards (unrealistic, admittedly, but...)?

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Dec 6th 2018 at 12:32:54 PM

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Dec 6th 2018 at 1:18:55 PM

My hope? (And one that's been legit rumoured) Viewtiful Joe 3, as a collab between Capcom and Platinum with Kamiya directing.

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Dec 6th 2018 at 1:34:21 PM

[up] That got me to remember how Kamiya wants (wanted?) to do Ōkami 2...

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