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ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#86176: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:01:22 AM

@Envyus There's also the inverted Seven of Wands and inverted Nine of Swords, which if I'm understanding correctly, are also representing his negative mindset.

Meanwhile, the ones visible in Killer's panel are the Ace of Swords, The Sun, the Knight of Wands, and Strength.

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#86177: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:02:29 AM

The Tower seems to be one of the more notable Tarot cards; at least I've noticed it more since the Harry Potter chapter "The Lightning-Struck Tower". That Oh, Crap! face was right, given it can represent a very sudden turnabout. If you're winning and all of a sudden see The Tower...

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Oct 24th 2021 at 12:03:18 PM

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
KhunRun Manga Brainrot 🦋 Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#86178: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:08:08 AM

Props to Kid... he may be seen as a loser within the fandom but he has one hell of a partner in Killer

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alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀑𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#86180: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:26:12 AM

@wanderlust: IIRC the Tower's significance is that it's the only Tarot card that's 100% bad, with even Death and Devil having some positive aspects.

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#86181: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:28:17 AM

The Tower is basically the worst card you can get. It is the "fall" part of "the rise before the fall" phrase.

[nja]'d. Btw, Death isn't really a bad card, it means something like finishing one phase and starting the other (aka death and rebirth).

Edited by Kara on Oct 25th 2021 at 12:30:50 AM

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#86182: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:34:37 AM

Death is all about transformation and The Devil is all about violence and sin. The Tower, meanwhile, is all about disaster - there is no reading of it that doesn't involve some matter of destruction.

I would say that the bit at the end actually recognizes the "good" within the Tower card - that it encourages if not necessitates reconstruction from the ashes of before.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#86183: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:48:21 AM

I dabble in tarot reading in my spare time (before the pandemic I used to do tarot readings in bars for a few bucks). There's three cards that invariably go the darker way (and Death isn't one of them), in my interpretation. the Tower is the grim one about collapse and destruction, tarot's portent of doom. The Devil about temptation, inner demons and vices and The Hanged Man is about sacrifice and loss.

Death just looks scary but it's about change, can be both good and bad.

Hawkins should just load his deck with Chariots (which represents victory, triumph, perseverance) in the scenario he's in.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86184: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:59:33 AM

Rachel-Desu's chapter 1029 inversion thread.

  • Sanji running away from Queen to think about what's going on with his body parallels Usopp as Sniper King running away from Perona to think about what's going on with her body.

  • Hawkins headbutting the pillar is a visual parallel to Mr 1 slicing up Zoro against a pillar.

  • Killer chopping off Hawkin's arm is a parallel to Zoro's Flying Dragon Blaze on Ryuma. Zoro frees Brook's shadow from Ryuma's body, Killer frees Kid from Hawkin's damage transferral.

  • Killer's finisher is the same as one of the first moves he used in the series, both done to protect Kid.

  • Killer offering himself in Kid's place is a parallel to Zoro offering himself to Kuma on Thriller Bark.

  • Both Luffy and Kid feel lighter after Zoro and Killer's respective moments.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#86185: Oct 24th 2021 at 11:18:03 AM

I wonder if there's any specific reason that Apoo and Earlobe Ninja have stayed up for so long or if it's just the order that Oda decided on.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#86186: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:03:59 PM

Some great animation for Yamato vs Ulti in the latest episode.

drakecake72 Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#86187: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:14:14 PM

While I get that Sanji's afraid of becoming like his brothers, I hope he eventually realizes that this is his power. He can't escape that he's a Vinsmoke by birth, but he can still use those abilities to protect his crew.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#86188: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:19:42 PM

Damn Killer’s a great guy and clever solution to work around Hawkin’s power.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#86189: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:21:16 PM

[up] It's less fear of the power itself and more fear that the developing of that power will cause him to become like his brothers.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#86190: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:56:44 PM

[up][up][up] Someone get Shoto Todoroki to tell Sanji that.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86191: Oct 24th 2021 at 1:19:00 PM

I'm guessing next chapter will cover Apoo vs Drake, since that's the other pair of Supernovas fighting.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#86192: Oct 24th 2021 at 1:47:04 PM

Another notable Card falling with Hawkins is Reverse Death. Which symbolizes resistance to change. [down]This is actually correct looking at it again. And Reverse Seven of Wands is the card of giving up.

Edited by Envyus on Oct 24th 2021 at 11:53:21 AM

ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#86193: Oct 24th 2021 at 1:54:50 PM

It's not, actually. It's the Seven of Wands.

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#86194: Oct 24th 2021 at 2:49:46 PM

I don't know if they will, but the ending of this chapter made me feel like Kid and Law just might defeat Big Mom.

KhunRun Manga Brainrot 🦋 Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#86195: Oct 24th 2021 at 2:51:36 PM

More Sanji development... Him accepting his power as his own regardless of his family? All here for that

Can see a Drake chapter coming up next. Do wish Oda would focus on solely one fight beginning to end sometimes but welcome seeing more of the Supernovas

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86196: Oct 24th 2021 at 3:01:35 PM

Huh, I just realized that Jewelry Bonney was on the cover page of this, a chapter focusing heavily on the fight between Killer and Hawkins. I wonder if Urouge will be on the cover page for the chapter covering the Drake vs Apoo battle.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#86197: Oct 24th 2021 at 4:34:22 PM

I continue my epic fence-sitting on the Big Mom situation. I can tl;dr by saying I think Big Mom winning makes more sense but Kid and Law winning would matter more thematically.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#86198: Oct 24th 2021 at 4:40:28 PM

Working off the assumption that Big Mom will have a significant role in whatever happens when the Straw Hats reach Elbaf, my money's on Kid and Law not winning, but instead either forcing Big Mom to retreat or lasting long enough for Luffy to beat Kaido, and that will prompt Big Mom to cut her losses and nope outta there. By that point she'll have (so far as she knows) dealt with the Zeus situation and with Kaido beaten (a) her alliance with him is null and void and (b) she'll be dealing with a force that's demonstrated it's strong enough to beat Kaido.

Basically my bet is the middle ground of Big Mom being given a reason to leave without it actually being a loss.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 24th 2021 at 4:52:00 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86199: Oct 24th 2021 at 7:35:32 PM

I think it will be a big, conclusive loss on Big Mom's part, but she still manages to retreat back to her ship and will be a major player in Elbaf later on.

Actually, I'm hoping that Kaido and Big Mom play roles in the Final War arc in some way. Just because they've been beaten once doesn't mean they can't come back. Even defeated, they should still be some of the biggest players in the world and should have a role in the ultimate war that decides everything.

What exactly their role should be, I dunno, but I want them to be involved. Maybe they join Luffy's side ala Crocodile in Marineford. Maybe they join up with Blackbeard once they hear that he's the heir to their old captain Xebec. Maybe they're just neutral parties adding to the chaos, who knows?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#86200: Oct 24th 2021 at 7:37:55 PM

Let's just hope it doesn't involve Blackbeard or his crew showing up at the last minute to steal Kaido's Devil Fruit power or something.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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