One Piece

wouldn't it be wiser to just check for corpses? none of them left one. unless they killed so many people then they'd have trouble finding them.

Even in his default form, Orohchi doesn't look strictly incompetent. He's gonk, but he's got more of a square, angular shape to him. It's usually the rounder gonks that are meant to be lame, from what I've noticed.

Weirdly enough, Orochi did specifically say that nobody found Momo's body, which implies that the others did have corpses somehow. Might have been a trick, but I don't know why they wouldn't do the same for the prince.

Edited by MileRun on Feb 8th 2019 at 10:56:01 AM

Have we been reading a different One Piece from each other?

For her part, I don't even think you can call her "complex", yet. That would depend on whether Oda tries to swing back on the "oh, she doesn't really hate poor people thing, and had an actually good reason to do that", which is something he would totally do.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 8th 2019 at 1:35:18 PM

I haven't seen any grounds to think Orochi won't be a significant threat. He has what'll obviously be a Mythical Zoan and so far all the holders of one have been notable in combat.

I can understand why people wouldn't take Orochi seriously, but I didn't see a reason for why he couldn't both have a silly design and be genuinely dangerous. This is One Piece, after all.

So we're pretty sure that Wano is for all intents and purposes "the beginning of the end," right?

Not necessarily- for one thing, I don't think we can as of yet take it as a given that Kaidou's going down this arc. But even if he does, while we're unlikely to get another pre-endgame arc villain as strong or stronger than him, there is the possibility of a smaller scale arc- something akin to Punk Hazard or the Davy Back fight- happening before we get into the nitty-gritty.

This isn't like Whole Cake Island where defeating Big Mom was never the primary objective. We've had three or four arcs dedicated to building up forces and making preparations to fight Kaido, and now we're in his base of operations and multiple players are gathered in one place.

I honestly can't see this ending in any way except with Kaido's defeat because otherwise all that buildup would be for naught.

I think Kaido's defeat really will become a "beginning of the end moment" because the toppling of at least one Emperor, if not two (though I'm not certain if Big Mom will fall too or not), will have serious ramifications all over, just like when Whitebeard died.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 10th 2019 at 11:00:58 AM

Just like all that build up to save Ace! It would have been a shame if...oh.

The fact that Luffy failed didn't negate everything that led up to it, it was what everything led up to. Ace's death served a purpose to the story that failing to defeat Kaido in Wano doesn't share.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 10th 2019 at 11:11:06 AM

While Big Mom is a tyrant of a Gilded Cage, she's the type of villain I think you have to defeat by changing her mind not toppling from her throne. Big Mom in some ways could be seen as a Steven Universe villain.

While The Beast Pirates could be seen as the traditional type of tyrannical assholes that have plagued One Piece since Ax-Hand Morgans.

I've also got a feeling that the "beginning of the end" moment will lead up to the all-out Final Battle at the end of the story when the Straw Hats and the Grand Fleet form the alliance with Luffy as their main pirate leader against Imu and the World Government as well as the Blackbeard Pirates, as I described a few pages back.

Edited by gjjones on Feb 10th 2019 at 1:52:26 PM

To be clear, I'm not saying that Kaito isn't going to be defeated at some point- or even that that won't be relatively soon. What I am saying is that I can envision a version of events where Orochi or someone is the big climatic battle of this arc, and it turns out that establishing the upper tier of Kaidou's forces was more the point than beating them, at least in the short term- and the actual final showdown with him takes place somewhere else.

She’s kind of a deranged psychopathic ambiguously cannibalistic warlord though.

It better to get rid of her & install a more sane leader for Totland.

Wait I don’t remember a Steven Universe villain as hideously insane as her.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 10th 2019 at 10:59:06 AM

Also, I'm probably predicting that the Thousand Sunny will be destroyed in the Final Battle (a la the sinking of the RMS Titanic as depicted in Titanic (1997), the 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, or in fiction, the DeLorean in Back to the Future Part III) while sending out a final distress call to everyone via the Transponder Snail from the ship's kitchen (such as This is the final transmission from the Sunny, etc.), which will reinvigorate the Straw Hats and their allies to avenge their fallen ship. Franky and some of the Straw Hats may also go down with the Sunny in a Heroic Sacrifice, as he was the one who helped built it back in Water 7.

Edited by gjjones on Aug 13th 2019 at 2:55:03 PM

Could be a possibility, provided that this happens after they get to Raftel - thus effectively making Franky's dream come true. I mean, I can't see the Straw Hats' objectives not being fulfilled in the end.

Speaking of which, I can see a lot of their dreams being left for the epilogue, such as Nami's World Map, Sanji's All Blue, Brook reuniting with Laboon, Usopp visiting Elbaf...

I mean, something like Nami's dream has to be left for the epilogue.

And I too could see the Sunny being destroyed, but only after it's done what Franky wants to prove it can do.

I always imagined that the All Blue would be revealed as a side-effect of another big moment. Like, there's a specific island or part of the ocean that is narratively important, but it also happens to be a place where all the oceans of the world come together, meaning it has all the fish from around the world in one place.

Just from a geological point, the All Blue can only be either where Fishman Island/ Red Line or Reverse Mountain is. The continent is preventing the formation of the All Blue.

I think the All Blue will be just the waters around Laftel. That explains why no one knows where it is.

I think all their dreams will come together at the end.

Yeah, even Robin finding the Rio Poneglyph and exposing the truth of the Void Century to the entire world.

And I'm wondering what this cryptic tweet's about, since it was posted on Netflix Japan's page? Something pertaining to the 20th anniversary of the anime? Or maybe the live-action series will be on Netflix in the US later this year, since it was announced back in 2017?

Edited by gjjones on Feb 11th 2019 at 4:23:31 AM

https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/02/11/vivre-card-databook-vol-6-all-the-new-information/

A sum up of the data card info's in there.

I'm still surprised by Doc Q and Lafitte's ages. Lafitte being that old DOES fit with him being Teach's effective first mate. Also Teach indeed had a sad childhood.

Edited by Maljen on Feb 11th 2019 at 4:24:10 AM

Even if Blackbeard has a sad childhood, it wouldn't excuse his actions.

Lafitte being first mate was definitely a surprise; needless to say we should keep an eye on him.