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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#173126: May 23rd 2019 at 7:16:36 PM

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Eh. The quality of the games is subjective to begin with. While a lot of people don't like XY and SM/USUM both gens have their defenders. I don't think slowing imput would do anything for the quality of the games if I'm being honest. People complain but they still buy them so they must be doing something right.

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#173127: May 23rd 2019 at 7:55:04 PM

I wonder if GF should just do like EA did with Maxis and The Sims franchise and form a specific studio dedicated to just handling the Pokemon franchise using a mix of employees from GF, Nintendo EAD and maybe another in-house studio like Monolithsoft that they rotate outside of a handful of key employees to prevent the series from being as tired as GF seems to be of having to make them at this point in time.

"Hey Monolith want to dabble in the #1 RPG franchise?"

"Wow, you guys are really caving to that open world Pokemon demand."

Cue Lv.81 electric guitar-playing gorillas in Route 1.

Edited by RAlexa21th on May 23rd 2019 at 7:57:08 AM

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#173128: May 23rd 2019 at 7:57:01 PM

Breath of the Wild was able to be Breath of the Wild by virtue of their taking an entire console generation to make it. Having more time means less pressure to produce something safe and reliable.

But you're also right that they have no reason to. The games sell through the roof and have never not done so.

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#173129: May 23rd 2019 at 7:57:37 PM

At least the best track of the game will play while you get horribly murdered by that OP Pokemon.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#173130: May 23rd 2019 at 8:00:18 PM

I can't help but feel like the narrative of the fanbase generally disliking the alola games is a bit exaggerated? I think its dislikers are pretty vocal but it didn't get near the same amount of backlash the kalos games did. Let's Go is more comparable in that regard.

Anyway beat the E4 and hau. The E4 actually ended up easier than expected and I lost no more than two mons per match. Hau on the other hand had me down to my last mon(salamence) and had he not made the mistake of switching out a wounded crabdominable earlier into noivern who got instantly KO'd he could've possibly won. His tauros is pretty threatening since it's rather fast and hits hard.

Edited by Vertigo_High on May 23rd 2019 at 8:01:24 AM

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173131: May 23rd 2019 at 8:04:43 PM

I am inclined to think while GF should do what it usually does and headline new gens, they should contract other studios to give a more diverse experience while also let GF take more time on new gens. If GF won't do a main adventure focused on doubles, maybe Genius Sonority would like to have another crack at it then.

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DonaldthePotholer from Miami's In-State Rival Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#173133: May 23rd 2019 at 9:26:07 PM

On the one hand, burnout is definitely a thing. Also, Pokemon is a Tough Act to Follow for anybody, especially its creators.

On the other hand, Gen 6 not getting an Updated Re-releasenote  validated that particular practice. It's almost as though they need to publish near the end of a console's lifecycle to fully embrace its effects.

Conversely, I don't see where Nintendo goes from the Switch except perhaps upgrades on stuff like resolution, hardware, etc. So perhaps it would behoove GF to prolong the generations a bit, as others have suggested. I mean, if anyone comes out of left field hardware wise, Ninten-does, but you can't predict those developments in advance by the very nature of those projects.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#173134: May 23rd 2019 at 9:45:06 PM

I don't get the acceptance of 3rd versions, especially with regard to Gen VI.

People keep saying Kalos would of been better if Z had come out, but wouldn't the ideal situation be a pair of games that are as good as they possibly could be from the outset?

I'm all for additional content and don't even think updated re-releases are inherently bad, but ideally a game should stand on its own without an update well enough.

CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#173135: May 23rd 2019 at 10:02:38 PM

I think part of the reason they are so accepting is because GF is NOT accepting the other path of dlc expansions. U forget their reasoning, but we basically dont have much we can fo on the matter. Like you said, any game they touch makes blockbuster amount of cash. If it aint broke, why fix it?

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#173136: May 23rd 2019 at 10:12:13 PM

Any Pokemon game

Every game Gamefreak has ever made that isn't Pokemon has bombed. Most people don't even know what Drill Dozer, Tembo the Badass Elephant, Harmoknight, and Giga Wrecker even are.

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#173137: May 23rd 2019 at 11:21:30 PM

I should preface that my personal favorite pokemon gen is Gen 6, and I still really like Sun and Moon, though USUM I kinda loathe on principle.

But G6 and G7 are heavily flawed, and USUM being what they were was kinda the revealing of the strings of the puppet show. People loved SM for how fresh it was at the time, the Alola pushback only really happened after USUM came out.

Edited by PippingFool on May 24th 2019 at 4:22:22 AM

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173138: May 23rd 2019 at 11:52:46 PM

And yet USUM still sold a ton despite the 3DS being half-dead. That's what I call a dedicated fanbase.

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MayIncon Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#173139: May 24th 2019 at 5:45:05 AM

A combination of effective marketing/trailers and franchise addiction probably.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#173140: May 24th 2019 at 11:23:46 AM

I hate going through ultra space, getting kinda far, running into like 2 electric balls and landing in a basic wormhole on a blind turn. So aggravating.

I actually did find reshiram in an early glowing wormhole though(and not even a rare one), which was cool and a stroke of luck. Normally I'd feel cheap using it but since RR use legendaries...maybe just for them, plus I want to have it fight ghestis.

USUM is probably one of the funnest games to do monotype due to providing a fairly decent selection across types and generally having one of the more challenging campaigns.

Edited by Vertigo_High on May 24th 2019 at 11:28:43 AM

AgentKirin Since: Aug, 2017
#173141: May 24th 2019 at 11:27:57 AM

I would've liked the different areas of Ultra Space to have more to explore (like Platinum's Distortion World) instead of having a very similar linear layout, but what we got was alright. It helps that the music's great.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#173142: May 24th 2019 at 11:30:51 AM

I really wished they were more intricate too but considering they're just glorified legendary lairs, they're at least aesthetically pleasing and thematically interesting ones.

Though I get upset whenever I end up in buzzswole's now, because it's the one I end up in most by far. I never even got to guzzlord or kartana's.

Edited by Vertigo_High on May 24th 2019 at 11:31:26 AM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#173143: May 24th 2019 at 12:59:04 PM

Ultra Space was a massive disappointment. Probably the thing that reveals the 3rd version model is a relic of the past.

CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#173144: May 24th 2019 at 1:18:26 PM

Not to me! I loved Ultra Space, minigane and all. Going around to different dimensions and timelines to capture aliens was rad. People say they were barren but i already understand why so its fine.

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#173145: May 24th 2019 at 1:27:51 PM

Hated the minigame, but I do enjoy the maps - especially the UBs'. Really gives that "alien" vibe they're supposed to have.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#173146: May 24th 2019 at 2:18:39 PM

I meant Ultra Megalopolis, sorry. Ultra Space is fine, if a tad gimmicky. Comapred to how ORAS handled extra legendaries.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#173147: May 24th 2019 at 2:35:45 PM

I hope when we get Sinnoh remakes, they find a clever way to cram all past legendaries into it.

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YamiiDenryuu doot from You know, that place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#173148: May 24th 2019 at 2:40:09 PM

Put them in the void and make the player bike a certain distance out for each of them

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#173149: May 24th 2019 at 2:45:29 PM

My guess is that they'd be locked behind the Platinum Episode. Once you've caught Giratina, you can use the Distortion World to access other universes.

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#173150: May 24th 2019 at 2:47:52 PM

acsending the void glitch would be the most hilarious thing ever that still ties into the lore. shame it'll never happen.

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