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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#426: May 26th 2015 at 6:42:11 AM

@419 : scratch that, make it a Warblade werewolf. With a guisarme !

Charge me ? Trip. Try to get back up ? Attack of opportunity, and trip when it's my turn. Beat my trip attempt and disarm me ? Eat natural weapons, bitch ! (Also, still trip)

edited 26th May '15 6:42:37 AM by Aetol

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#427: May 26th 2015 at 9:51:59 AM

[up] Is that so you can be guisarmed and dangerous?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#428: May 26th 2015 at 1:13:11 PM

* Trips BlueNinja0 *

edited 26th May '15 1:13:51 PM by Aetol

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#429: May 26th 2015 at 1:15:04 PM

Now kids be nice :P Use the Pun Nerf Swords like everyone else.

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#430: Jul 21st 2015 at 12:37:36 PM

So, it looks like I'm going to play D&D 5E soon. So here's three characters I'd like to play :

  • NE Werewolf Human Fighter (Battle Master). Yes, I really want to play a werewolf.
  • LG Dragonborn Sorcerer (Draconic Bloodline). Because that just makes so much sense.
  • LN Half-Elf Paladin (Oath of Vengeance). The Paladin looks very good in 5E.

If the GM is okay with the werewolf I'll take that. Otherwise, it'll be whichever fits the party best.

edited 21st Jul '15 12:41:12 PM by Aetol

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#431: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:06:14 PM

Oh, I know the feeling - I've been wanting to play a werebear for some time. My big problem with that is the level adjustment in 3.5 that you'd have to eat to do so (a level 0 werebear is ECL 9) - earlier in the campaign, things would be too out of balance with one in there, and later in the campaign, my character could just be revived. Oh well, Son Of Sir Bearington will just have to wait.

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#432: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:23:33 PM

Lycanthropy in 5E is less inconvenient (no additional HD, no LA) but also less powerful (no insane stat boosts, for one).

I expect I'll have to bargain a bit though (it still seems quite OP : immunity to all physical damage except from silver !!?), and having the lycanthropy count as a level or two is a way of nerfing the character I envisage. It's still not as painful as LA because levels in 5E are never truly empty (the proficiency bonus — BBA, save bonuses and skill ranks all rolled in one stat — depends only on the total level).

edited 21st Jul '15 3:54:13 PM by Aetol

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#433: Jul 25th 2015 at 1:20:01 PM

I had this idea for DFRP based on a throwaway Word of God

Basically, the Library of Congress is a supernatural entity in the Dresdenverse. I'd basically build it out as a liberal cross of the MIB and the SCP, based on

I. Keeping up the Masquerade (actively, instead of the lez faire 'humans just ignore us' the Council does)

II. Securing magic lore and knowledge (Maybe as backup to the Archive?)

III. maybe do some magic policing (With turning them over to the Wardens if its Warlocks), but doesn't have the Manpower and resources to do more beyond "if we see it"

Their Agents would be Council Independent Wizards and/or Sorcerers (depending on the GM), given that the Library probably has enough lore to train Wizards, but probably a lot less recruits than the Council.

Librarians specialize in hexing, to erase evidence, veils, to hide stuff and as close as to mind wiping as they get without breaking the laws (they can't fuck with long term memory but erase short term to a degree).

Politically, they would essentially be the "conservative" opposite to the "liberal" paranet, trying to keep the magic world and the "real" world clearly separate, for the greater good, and in the supernatural world they are very neutral outside of the US.

The char would be one of those Libarians, tasked with investigating a scene of magic existance and contain it. And then stuff happens :P

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#434: Jul 29th 2015 at 10:32:03 AM

I have this idea of a character who is so overflowing with legend that any item he uses for long enough eventually takes on magical powers based on how he used them, simply from drinking in his legend. When they become magical artifacts in their own right, if he loses or gives away the items, his legend still retains a tint of the item's powers, such as after giving a cloak wings, he can now jump or fall greater distances even without the cloak.

I don't know what kind of system would be able to support the concept, though.

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#435: Jul 30th 2015 at 8:25:03 AM

If you're already starting off as a legend, that sounds pretty overpowered. Maybe more as an NPC.

That said, Pathfinder Unchained gives rules for evolving magical items, which gain more powers as their users gain levels - that could be tweaked to work with such a concept, though you'd want to work with the GM on how to actually play that out.

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#436: Jul 30th 2015 at 12:03:47 PM

Counter example: Legend of the Wulin, Exalted, Mutants & Masterminds, Mythender.

Games where starting characters can be considered legendary or at least potentially legendary are not rare. Sure, none of those games work with that exact idea, but there are so many games out there. Maybe one of them would fit.

CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#437: Jul 30th 2015 at 1:37:03 PM

Hell, Nobilis requires you to start out as a straight-up god. (Mind you, Nobilis would also let you play as a literal legend - like, not the person in the legend, but as the legend itself. So, not playing as Gilgamesh, playing as the Epic of Gilgamesh. I should actually stat up a character like that sometime.)

edited 30th Jul '15 1:37:18 PM by CountDorku

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#438: Jul 30th 2015 at 11:03:10 PM

I've never played Nobilis, but I have statted up a living, non-humanoid legend in M&M before.

It was inspired by a player who wanted to play Pandora's Box. Not Pandora, but the box itself.

Ezekiel Smooth as a Skunk from The Other Side Since: Jan, 2001
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#439: Aug 14th 2015 at 10:38:17 PM

I've been going over a lot of Pathfinder builds lately.

Just going over them, not actually using them, because for whatever reason my current GM despises the idea of starting a game with everyone actually in the party, and they tend to collapse before I ever get introduced. But whatever, it's given me an opportunity to refine my ideas... I've never actually gotten very deep into PF until recently, and the archetype system has helped me immensely.

  • The spellchef. This is simply an alchemist (Visionary Researcher archetype) with the fluff that his alchemical creations are various types of food infused with magic (mutagen coffee, cognatogen tea, spice bombs). I also plan for him to hold a code of honor that forbids him to use poison or certain types of magic on his enemies, and even had thoughts a Shadow Archetype who does do those things, as well as a possible scenario in which he breaks his code and swears off magic, leaving the party unless they convince him otherwise.
  • Magical Girl. That's... I mean, I'm probably not the first person in this thread to bring up the concept. I have it figured for an oracle/summoner (Synthesist archetype) gestalt, but I keep pondering... the problem is that I feel she should have a familiar, but it's a trivial thing to burn a feat on. I could go witch instead of oracle, maybe, but I really wanted to keep her casting spontaneous...
  • Speaking of summoners, I have had a lot of ideas for them using the Unchained rules, most of which seem to feature a mentor in a tragic role in the backstory. There's one where bandits attack and the mentor is killed; the student is beaten nearly to death, but survives by binding a demon to himself. There's one where a student summons a psychopomp, who promptly informs him that his mentor is messing around with daemons and plans to sacrifice him. And there's one (using the dissociatist archetype) where the summoner himself turns out to be a demon, transformed into a human by the man who is now his supposed mentor.
  • I've been stewing on the age-old question of how to make a proper blue mage. The closest D&D has ever dared to get is the spellthief, which I feel sacrifices too much of its own magic to get too little of other people's magic. I'm pondering a few possibilities. Maybe a wizard archetype that replaces arcane schools with the ability to learn a limited number of spell-like abilities from watching either spells or spell-like abilities being used. Or maybe go all-out and make a sorcerer archetype that only learns spells from seeing them used, having a greater number of spells known than other sorcerers, but only if he can fill up that list the hard way.
  • I've also been contemplating a "wonder mage" class idea. Like a warlock, a wonder mage has a very small "spell" list, but unlimited spells per day. But a wonder mage's spells are, as the name suggests, like a Rod of Wonder. Each spell is a group of thematically similar magic effects (like Cleric domains), and each time you cast the spell, you roll for the effect. The probability of an undesirable effect also increases the more you cast the same spell in a single day.

Just a few things. Thought I'd mention.

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#440: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:22:34 PM

The spellchef.
Please, please tell me they'll also have an Exotic Weapon Proficiency with a giant spatula.
a proper blue mage.
Admittedly I'm thinking of how it works in FF 6/7, but shouldn't you then only get spells that are used against you, not just spells you watch?

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#441: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:29:39 PM

Different Final Fantasy games have different types of blue mage. In some games you learn spells by basically scanning an enemy—they don't even have to use the spell. In Final Fantasy 9, one of your party members learns blue magic by eating enemies.

Final Fantasy 8's magic system as a whole is actually kind of similar to the spellthief, since everyone has the "Draw" ability that lets you steal spells directly from enemies, but casting spells uses them like consumable items.

Anyway, the question of how exactly the class learns its spells is part of the bigger question of how to balance the ability to learn spells from enemies without it being underpowered or overpowered. It doesn't have to be directly based on Final Fantasy, either. "Blue mage" is just a handy term.

I feel like at some point the spatula thing has come up before, and yeah, it's practically inevitable. Although scimitars might also be a good weapon to use.

edited 16th Aug '15 12:15:09 AM by Ezekiel

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#442: Aug 16th 2015 at 8:07:35 PM

[up] Nonononono. You have the giant spatula for a polearm, then a rolling pin for closer melee (or undead) and pizza cutters as throwing daggers. waii

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#443: Aug 18th 2015 at 11:38:08 AM

Re-reading the Abyssals book, I suddenly had this image of a high-Appearance Abyssal come to mind. Except, instead of the sleek, lean, androgynous beauty of most high-Appearance Abyssals, this guy would be the exemplar of savage manliness: nearly eight-foot tall, a few hundred pounds, mostly muscle, long white hair and beard coming down to his waist, the trappings of death the fur and skin of whatever he slew in the last months, held together by a frame of soulsteel.

He would also be a good guy, as much as an Exalt could be considered good, using his gigantic axe to slay enemies of Creation by the dozens, laughing madly all the while, which turns into tears of sorrow as his Dark Fate punishes him for whatever transgressions he committed.

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#444: Aug 28th 2015 at 4:47:44 PM

I just had a thought for a character that's kind of like... hm, like combining Villefort or Turpin with Jean Valjean.

That is to say, the character is a formerly corrupt judge who sentenced an innocent man to a life in prison for selfish reasons. He later experienced a tragedy that cost him his ill-gotten gains and opened his eyes to the nature of his crimes, inspiring him to start on a path of atonement. However, the man he had locked up is now free, and will hunt him down seeking justice no matter what good he has done since...

edited 28th Aug '15 4:48:11 PM by Ezekiel

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#445: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:58:43 PM

I really want to make a character who's a formerly vicious prosecutor, who's now a defense attorney thats softened up, but still has hints of being cold and brutal when she gets pissed.

CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#446: Oct 6th 2015 at 10:12:00 PM

Should I be in a game of Atomic Highway or similar post-apocalyptic game sometime: a Religious Bruiser whose holy book is about sixty percent rock and metal lyrics, who is prone to PROCLAIMIN' in a voice like thunder while charging into the fray.

Imagine it:

"The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive. Everybody's out on the run tonight, there's 'no place left to hide!

But tramps like us, baby we were born to run!!!

edited 6th Oct '15 10:12:11 PM by CountDorku

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#447: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:31:58 AM

@446 That sounds pretty Boss, dude.

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#449: Oct 22nd 2015 at 4:53:52 PM

A beefy alien guy raised by humans in a remote shanty town on Rifts Earth.

Though average in intellect, he is well-educated on the subject of robotics and machinery, courtesy of his adoptive fathers' massive collection of magazines and manuals. This allows him to be a highly effective Anti Robot Specialist, knowing more about sentient machines, power armor and their workings than some intellectually superior engineers.

Demeanor-wise, hes a mostly normal and well-adjusted guy with a life-long fascination for a specific form of engineering, speaking in a typical cowboy drawl and showing a disdain for egotistic folk, be they organic or AI.

Flaws-wise he is a bit slow, not paying attention to anything that is overly wordy and not robotics-related and frequently asking for summaries in twenty words or less. Hes also easily intimidated by magic and the supernatural.

The other concept for Rifts that I want to try is a Lemurian adventurer based off the character concept I posted in the hero critique thread in Writer's Block, a Knight In Sour Armor Bishonen with a love of nature.

He was at first an explorer, naively wandering and frolicking around RIFTS Earth, writing down notes about surface-dwellers and occasionaly helping groups of the latter. This lasted until he blundered into a Splugorth slave gathering raid. Despite being outgunned and outnumbered, he did his best to defend the townsfolk, and got rewarded for his troubles by being captured and enslaved.

All his pets that were not his war-steed were eaten alive in front of him, in hopes of breaking him, then having a morality-overriding parasite attached to him and his steed and being sold to a slave owner that decided to expand into gladiator fights.

Yet, despite being forced to kill people for the entertainment of a jaded interdimensional audience, he maintained his sense of morality, and was soon (by the time of the game) freed of his bonds and ready to do good again.

edited 23rd Oct '15 2:54:41 AM by Kanonite

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#450: Oct 30th 2015 at 8:07:36 PM

Ever since I saw the Entertainer background in D&D 5e, I've wanted to play a character who was part of a traveling troupe of entertainers; namely, he/she was raised by the troupe and lives with them, working as an acrobat. I don't even know what class they would be. I'd imagine either Rogue/Arcane Trickster or Monk (mainly for a She-Fu sort of fighting style, though Monk would be difficult considering he's not part of a monastic tradition), or even simply a particularly agile swashbuckling Fighter.

edited 30th Oct '15 8:13:46 PM by AllHailThrall

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