This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who have received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.
If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.
The Forum Rules
apply here.
Don'ts
- Don't be rude. Rule 1 applies here, too.
- Don't try to negotiate your suspension outside of this thread, such as by sending Private Messages to moderators or posting elsewhere. Such activity may be thumped or otherwise removed, and may warrant an additional suspension block if it keeps happening. All communications have to take place within this thread.
- Don't respond to other suspended users. This is a place for you to discuss your suspension, not others'.
- Don't post multiple times about your appeal if it hasn't been a few days since your last reply from us, since it makes it more difficult to compose responses. If you've posted, we're likely looking at it, and kindly request you to be more patient.
- Don't make another account to try and get around your suspension. This is called ban evasion and will get you bounced. (Again, read What to Do If You Are Suspended if you don't know what these words mean.)
Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
No, I didn't know about about edit history until you've just told me. As for the Edit War thing, I've also don't know how to make threads and even if I did, as stated earlier, I've only just found out about edit history so I wouldn't even know WHO to talk to.
OK, it would really behoove you to review the pages I linked to get more familiar with the wiki and how to use the community when editing.
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@nombretomado: Video Games section are mostly where I am concentrated on things. There are other communities that I regularly visit there, such as the Fire Emblem, Fate/Grand Order, Fighting Games, Super Robot Wars, some MOBA games (as long as it's not from Blizzard. Smite, in particular), etc etc. And if there is a video game news, a lot of times I follow. The only problem is Warcraft and Blizzard games.
I've given the proposed solutions to even prevent this, one that may look extreme: See me post in any Blizzard games topic, no matter how innocent or on-topic or how it isn't deserving of thumps, and then you can just ban me from doing anything in this wiki, including editing on this wiki or making an account.
But if you're still not interested... well it's also okay to go along with your plan (which seems to be a permanent suspension for the Video Game forums). After all, I did plan that once I'm done with my last businesses within the Pantheons, I'm just not going to visit even the Pantheon forums again to stave off my Single-Issue Wonk problems. If that means not visiting the forums, it's also fine in my books. And I have a hunch that my other strike is as you said, 'too many thumps', I don't think I can avoid that.
So yeah, that is my proposal on that. What do you think? If you still do not accept, I won't be mad. This is my last proposal for this (that means, if you say no in your next post, I will post that I accept your proposal and go along with the rule)
Occasionally, we get offers like what you're proposing - a toe out of line, and that's a permanent suspension. At two strikes, that's already a standard methodology we already take, so you are not proposing something new.
The video games subforum being the only ban is the olive branch we are willing to extend. (Even if we could ban forums based on an individual game/creator level, there's always future games that may get the Single-Issue Wonk going again.)
It's a take it or leave it, and you should keep in mind that a third strike will likely see you permanently forum banned.
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Is that so? Very well. That means after I finish up my business in the Pantheon, I will, for my own good, just not post in the forums at all. It's a permanent suspension on Video Games forums and I have to owe up to my mistakes, or I am not a (soon-to-be-33-years) man.
You do not need to worry about ban-evasion actions or vandalism as a result of this. I do not do that.
Long story short, I accept your proposal.
Good to hear. Your posting suspension has been lifted except for the VG subforum.
I have looked over the YMMV definitions page and will familiarise myself with a trope and ask if I am unsure before adding/deleting an entry. May I have my ban lifted?
I've already read a bit, can I come back now please?
I've made a request to be allowed to edit again a while ago, and have not had a response in over two weeks on the matter.
If there's still discussion on the issue, then I'll wait for a reply. If the matter is already settled, then I'd like to request the results of the discussion; at the very least I'd like to know if I am banned from editing for good.
If I'm allowed to edit again, I hereby solemnly swear to do my absolute best to avoid Zero Context Examples. I will provide context to ensure that anybody new to the topic will have detailed, but to-the-point explanations as to how it's an example. I'll provide picture evidence if I have to.
If not, then I'll just make my peace with not being able to edit forever.
Edited by Kurogane7 on Dec 16th 2018 at 2:44:43 AM
Everyone pending, we will get to you shortly. Thank you for your patience.
It was hyperbole. I was angry and frustrated and it was in the Anxiety thread where I thought I would be understood.
I'm older now anyway. Learned a lot about what goes over well and what doesn't.
I had forgotten how seriously Tvtropes fora takes its rules and how I have to temper my language here.
Still though, I really miss posting.
~Naijal, please read Example Indentation in Trope Lists and Edit War. Once you feel you understand how indentation works, and what to do instead of edit warring, come back and we'll make sure you're good to go.
~zoopyDoopy, your suspension is released.
~Mew1996, you are released as well. Keep reading; familiarize yourself. As stated earlier, enthusiasm is great, but we ask that you not create bad edits that others have to clean up.
~Kurogane7, apologies for the oversight. Before we release you, I just want to make sure. Please rewrite these examples to have sufficient context:
- Bling-Bling-BANG!: As it was made in honor of the loss of the Queen and her brother, it is unsurprising that it is this ornate; especially considering the gem embedded near the tip.
- Cool Sword: Natch for most swords, but this one is actually ornate too.
- Sword Beam: Its power attack.
~Keybreak, the Anxiety thread is a empathetic place, and we don't want to discourage you from venting and getting support from the community, but threats (towards self or towards others) are something we take very, very seriously. If we don't take them as such, and something happens - that onus is on us for not taking appropriate action. Does that make things clearer on why we came down on you so quickly?
Edited by nombretomado on Dec 17th 2018 at 5:13:25 AM
Hi, I would like to edit again. After some of the posts here along with “What To Do If You Are Suspended,” I believe I know why I was (“edit war,” and “rudeness,” after another troper replaced some edits I made and re-made my edits and in the “Edit Reason” box I asked why they were lying etc in an unnecessarily rude tone), and if I’m correct I can assure that I will not do that again. Upon reflection I’m already mortified at my rudeness and although I would like a chance to edit again and fix the edits (because the edits I had made were right, the other troper was using information that has since been proven wrong), if I am given the chance I won’t be so confrontation in editing.
justagirl
Hi. I'd like to edit again. I accidentally got into an edit war (I didn't even know that was a thing). I had some old information on a character in a tv show I regularly watch. Apparently they changed her sexuality behind the scenes and I happened to miss that update. The information I had was that she was confirmed bisexual but now the writers of the show have confirmed she's a lesbian so someone kept on changing her information to "lesbian." I won't change it back to bisexual again, since that's wrong now. I love editing troupes and adding more about my favorite characters from tv shows and movies. I didn't even know it was possible to get suspended from these things since I'm usually so attentive!
Hello! :) how are you.
I have a problem, I'm latin and I don't know how to expressing well in english.
I wanted to post a Tv trop from cunt busting (groin attack in female version) recopilation.
But I wrote an article in "Quotes", I wasn't know how to write the title an was suspended.
You tell me that I must go to call with you. What you want tell me?
Thanks for your time.
Hi
~blodynhue: Leaving aside the problem with creating that improper page, your English is far too poor for you to be allowed to edit. Any future edits you would like to make will need to be submitted to the Get Help with English thread until you're deemed improved to the point that you don't need correction.
Hi
~owlnoelsword96, ~Leanne: Both your suspensions are indeed over the Edit War on the Riverdale pages over character sexuality. When an example on a page is in dispute, the disagreement should be hashed out on the page's Discussion page, or over PM, not through back-and-forth adding and removing of the example. Is this clear?
owlnoelsword96, I appreciate that you've recognized that being rude in edit reasons is not proper behavior.
justagirl
Wait, I had two suspensions? That was the only edit war I've been in. What else did I do? *Never mind I understand now. You're talking to the other trouper. For the record I never saw the rude edits.*
I understand about editing now. If I see something that's "wrong" (or that I think is wrong) I'll discuss it first before editing over someone else's troupe.
Edited by Leanne on Dec 18th 2018 at 12:46:14 PM
It is clear. At the time- although this doesn’t excuse my aggressiveness- I had thought that stating that the actress had since made a different claim etc would suffice as “edit reason,” but now I understand that I would need to discuss it first on discussion board or PM instead of edit warring. But again, it’s clear now.
Both of your suspensions are released.
Hello. I posted a few days ago regarding my own suspension. I take full responsibilities for my attitude over my recent edit conflict and am now making the promise not to become defensive as I did again. I want to be a productive member of this site, and last week I didn't conduct myself as such, over what was a silly disagreement. I will be mindful not to apply tropes where they may not fit the bill and to respect the words of the admins when informed of such mistakes.
I hope to hear back on this soon, I just want to write. That's what I like doing. And I want to be productive doing it.
~TheTrailblazerCritic, sorry for missing you earlier. Here's the note we have on this suspension:
Here's your first suspension reason:
What gives on the repeat offense? The criteria for an Edit War has not changed.
Sorry, I thought I had posted on here. Obviously I was wrong.
Again, I have no excuse for either of the two aforementioned incidents. And I have no idea why I got defensive. And I do wish to apologize to the admin who I had this feud with.
I do want to be a productive member, I think the majority of the time I have been. But it's not an excuse for the moments where I wasn't. Right now I just want the chance to prove I can accept when I've made an error and move on.
~TheTrailblazerCritic - Well, here's the thing. In general, we try to adhere to a "three strikes and out" policy. The first time is a genuine mistake; the second time, the lesson doesn't seem to have stuck, but we're having some good faith; the third time, something isn't clicking.
While we do make exceptions for this (it's not a hard-and-fast rule), it becomes much more rigid if it's the same offense being repeated. For you, if you edit-warred a third time, then that would be it.
With that in mind, I want you to be exceptionally clear on what the expectations are for disagreements in a page. A "remove-add-remove" series of edits is a war on the third edit; an "add-remove-add" is a war on the third edit. If you and another troper disagree on the validity of a write-up, the proper thing to do is to discuss it, either over private messages, soliciting second opinions in the page's discussion, or going to Ask the Tropers. Even if you feel the example has validity, the other troper likely has the same feeling about their opposite opinion, so it's important to put these aside and have a measured conversation about it.
Is this clear?
Edited by nombretomado on Dec 18th 2018 at 9:17:15 AM
~Mew1996, no, it would not be acceptable at all. As the other troper noted in the edit reasons, talking about yourself (even in the third-person) falls under This Troper and is not suited for the main wiki. We stopped hosting personal anecdotes (Troper Tales) quite a long time ago.