Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again.

^ I've added several more to round up. Would that be enough?

...crap. Knew this would happen.But I accept it.

Edited by generation81 on Mar 26th 2022 at 4:48:30 AM

~Synchronicity You don’t see a pitch for “High-Pitched Girl” yet, do you? I’m taking it very slow. I understand that it takes work to build a trope. It could be another year before I’ve successfully made a good seed to plant.

As for regular page editing, my phone enlarges images I trim. But now I know to reduce images to 100 x 100. All the image threads I’ve been to were locked. What’s up with that?

Edited by JKalver on Mar 26th 2022 at 3:53:48 AM

Hello. May I request that my suspension be lifted? I have read your points that you all brought up regarding my edits, and, after looking them over, I am personally ashamed at my carelessness and slight hypocracy, as on other wikis I wouldn’t tolerate such writing. When I wrote those pages, I was excited about making them and grew careless as a result. For this I apologize.

I would like to correct these errors as soon as can be done (with my first order of business being indexing the character pages which I completely forgot about). In the meantime however, I will be going over the various rules and etiquette pages in greater detail so I can try my best to prevent a repeat of this incident.

I again apologize for my behavior. Thank you for your time and have a pleasant day/evening.

Hey, I know it has been many months since I was suspended for making a lot of grammar mistakes, but I would like for my suspension to end, as I want to write a tvtrope page in a sandbox about a webcomic series I found online, and I want to edit it in tvtropes.

If you could kindly end my suspension, I would not only edit, but also improve my grammar in the Get Help With English Here thread. So please end my suspension, and I will continue to edit and improve my grammar at the same time on tvtropes.

Edited by Mauserhawkefd3435 on Mar 27th 2022 at 7:26:29 AM

Hello, I just found out today that I was suspended from my editing privileges via the warning notification/message. Given the circumstances, I would like to inquire as to what I did to receive one.

As I inquire about my suspension reason, I would also just want to say that I greatly apologize for any serious trouble I've caused here in TV Tropes given how I was unintentionally breaking TV Tropes rules and abusing my editing privileges out of my own impulsiveness and insensitivity.

With that said, I won't blame you guys for being overly mad/harshly disappointed at me for what I've done together with the reasons that lead me to be suspended from my editing privileges. Calling back to what you guys mentioned in the "Administrivia/What to Do If You Are Suspended" article, whether it was an honest mistake or not, being unaware of the rules is still regarded as an unjustifiable excuse/action.

In the end, I just want you guys to know that I had genuinely no malicious nor careless intentions at all in the first place to break the given rules here in TV Tropes nor to continuously cause any serious trouble with my editing privileges here on this website.

As such, I humbly wish to appeal for my suspension to be lifted, and rest assured that I promise to be more responsible and careful with my actions next time as much as I won't repeat any of my foolhardy mistakes in the future. On the other hand, if you guys need some time to accept my apology or take in anything I'm saying in this message above at this moment, I won't object nor argue...

To reiterate, I greatly apologize for my misconduct and the other major reasons that lead me to my suspension.

Thank you.

P.S. If possible, please feel free to also leave out suggestions on how I can improve next time and not repeat the same mistakes I've made in the future.

Edited by yuyasakaki406 on Mar 28th 2022 at 1:09:23 AM

Dear TV Tropes and its Tropers,

I am writing this message to inform you that I was informed I got suspended from editing my recent behavior. First off, if I did something to earn this suspension, I would like to say I'm deeply sorry. While I can be brutal in what I write, I do like what I try to edit on this site and only do what's best for each page.

I would please like to edit again and appeal for my suspension, so that I try to be better at what I do on this site.

Angus Tinubu

OK, so I'm here on account of something that just happened. In the Real Life Examples cleanup thread I saw that the "Sea Serpents" trope had been declared a "no real life examples" trope. However, I felt that there were some real life examples that might still have merit, so I removed the "closed" label from the crowner. At the time I did it, I thought nothing more of it.

Though I've been on the wiki and the forum for a long time, I was unfamiliar— definitely more unfamiliar than I should have been— with the policy regarding crowners, and I wasn't aware that what I was doing qualified as vandalism. As it stands, I've been suspended from the forum for vandalizing a crowner. I would definitely not have done it if I had known what I was doing was suspension-worthy. Not knowing still is not an excuse, and the fact remains what I did was wrong. I apologize for it.

Also, I'm quite aware this isn't my first time in the suspension thread. Last year, I was suspended last year for my excessive doomsaying in the OTC politics thread. But I was able to resolve that and find a way to participate in a more productive manner. I think this should be taken as proof that I can learn a lesson, and have done so in the past. I know what I did was wrong, and if I am allowed to participate in the forum again, I can prove to you that I learned a lesson this time as well.

Suffice to say, I'm truly sorry about what I did, and I'll accept whatever judgment you give me.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Mar 28th 2022 at 2:32:32 PM

Sorry for the long absence, but I've analized the MHA entry that was deemed controversial. 1. I probably wrote it too subjectively. 2. In the case there was an actual edit war (I did not intend to start any so sorry again for causing any confusion - especially if I accidentally reverted it) I'd take it to the talk page. I have some Wikipedia experience with it's own edit warring guidelines so (from checking TV Tropes' own) much of it I've already applied before. Just don't know whether 1RR or 3RR revert rules apply (look them up on Wikipedia).

@MacronNotes

I know it sounds hard to believe, but it is true. I did see the "closed" tag, but I felt it had been closed prematurely and decided to reopen it. That was the wrong thing to do, and I know it was wrong now, but I didn't then. I'm not terribly familiar with policy regarding crowners, since most of what I do here on TV Tropes is simple article editing and forum discussion. So when I removed the tag, I wasn't aware that it was something only people with mod power could do. I'm being 100% honest here.

Regarding that, I now see that there's a big list of rules at the page header of the "real life examples" thread. One of those rules does say not to open an already closed crowner. The thing is, I either scrolled past it too quickly to read what it said, or just plain overlooked it, when I made my edit.

Again, all this is entirely my fault. The bottom line is, I was too hasty, I didn't read the rules, and I broke them. I'm not trying to make excuses here; as I said in my original post, I feel genuinely sorry for what I did, and I recognize that it's my fault. If you give me my forum privileges back, I'll see to it that nothing of the sort happens again.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Mar 28th 2022 at 6:10:19 AM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=110284&type=att I just read that I was apparently "edit warring" and that wasn't really my intent, I have tried re-writing and rewording it in several ways to sound less negative like these were somehow "bad games" and more like how they weren't as beloved as other entries at the time. However, considering I have been a longtime member of the Mario fanbase: I clearly remember my time when 3D World was frequently frowned upon for continuing a controversial direction for 3D Mario. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way Mario Sunshine and the Gamecube era in general are listed while the Wii U seemingly gets a free pass despite being the complete opposite of what the Gamecube games were known for. The Wii U era made a lot of Mario fans unhappy and argue with eachother over "what Mario should be", it's a discourse divide that is unfortunately still felt to this day. I wanted to keep out any "forced objectivity" saying that the games were outright bad, because they clearly were beloved still and rated high by casuals and critics, as are most Mario games. (Even Sunshine was) I just feel it's unfair considering how this is based on general fandom and gaming populous consensus, of which 3D World was arguably tainted right upon reveal and I have met quite a few people who said they skipped it because it wasn't what they wanted, and it kind of explains why Super Mario Odyssey, the next mainline 3D game afterward, would return the formula back to it's roots. Mario Sunshine was criticized for being too "outlandish" for a general Mario game while 3D Land and 3D World were criticized for being "too safe". It bugs me how people in the Mario fanbase and the gaming community in general act like the Wii U era never even happened, despite it arguably hurting Nintendo and the Mario series a lot in the long run: It lost quite a bit of mainstream relevancy and popularity, even if it didn't completely fall off the face of the earth. I still have very vivid memories and remember that it wasn't the happiest time to be a Mario fan back then, the most that kept it alive was fan content, which Nintendo began cracking down more on around the mid-2010's. (Something I predict was because of their financial trouble during the Wii U era)

Secondly, I am aware my grammar has issues, but the whole "edit-lock" thing with this site confuses me and has me concerned. Maybe I should take more time with my writing, but I also worry what would happen if I let that timer expire. It's kind of hard trying to remember the formatting this site has in general. I usually have to spend a lot of time trying to make sure what I say is comprehensible and fixing various mistakes I have through the course of multiple edits, again: It's probably just me not understanding the formatting of this site very well and I apologize.

I can understand if you don't want to let me back at all. Hell, I'm not even really upset with this. I'm just tired of people ignoring history with the gaming community, as online gaming discourse has become arguably worse than ever before and I'm quite frankly really tired of being told what I can and can't enjoy without having to feel ashamed of myself.

Even if I do get let back in I'm probably just going to lurk more. I'm clearly bad at this and my anxiety with the edit lock time limit doesn't help. I would gladly appreciate a guide to how this site formats links on it's pages because I've had stuff break on me several times, Mostly because the page gets too big.

Edited by Duludubi on Mar 28th 2022 at 1:56:18 AM

I found out I was edit warring on The Dog Bites Back. I’m sorry. The reason I edited that trope was because more and more examples of non-villains showed up. But I did not tell any trooper about that, and I ended up in an edit war.

I’m sorry. I should have never gone into an edit war, even if it was not my decision.

Ideally I'd like a chance to prove that my deleting of a crowner tag was nothing more than a result of haste and inexperience. It was not, and I cannot emphasize this enough, a deliberate effort on my part to break site rules.

If I could have my forum privileges reinstated, I will take pains to avoid this type of mistake in the future. I know what my mistake was— I edited a crowner without paying attention to the explicitly written rules against doing so— and I have given serious thought to what I will do going forward. Any time I participate in a forum thread, I will always, from here on out, read the rules carefully before making any sort of post or edit.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Mar 28th 2022 at 11:05:34 AM

My primary mistake was simply creating pages and walking off, expecting others to fill it out. This was wrong, and I hate myself for thinking that was gonna do anything, with a long history of editing on wikia I should KNOW by now that’s never how it works (why I thought it was going to I don’t know). This is followed by forgetting to index certain pages and cross-wicking and general sloppiness which, again, I wouldn’t tolerate on other wikis. As for how I’m gonna fix it…

First off, as mentioned previously, I plan to expand the list of tropes in detail as well as applying examples according to the Make An Example subpage, then preform cross-wicking once I’m sure everything is fixed. In regards to certain character pages, after looking them over, they aren’t big enough yet to warrent having seperated folders for each character, so I will be changing that into folders containing groups of characters instead. I’ll also remove CM from Tinir’s ymmv, you were right it doesn’t belong there, I should have discussed it (I will be avoiding touching THAT trope for a good while, I think). I’m also going to index all the pages I’ve made, then set the page type. After that, I’ll be doing general maintenance where it’s needed.

When planning to create pages and/or subpages in the future, I will stop, compose myself, and see if I can list several tropes with detailed examples before so much as checking to see if the page I’m thinking about even exists. Then, upon creation if the page/subpage does not exist, I will ensure that the result looks like something I would want to browse through during a break before clicking done and moving to the indexes and cross-wicking (in that order).

Hello, I just read your message regarding why I got suspended from my editing privileges. On my part, I honestly thought that "You Gotta Have Blue Hair" was a real trope given how it was listed as an "Alternative Title" under "Hair Colors". However, I understand that even if it was an "Alternative Title" trope, I technically still used a trope that wasn't formally recognized as a real trope at all here on TV Tropes in the first place. To elaborate further, even if it was an honest mistake on my part, it was still an inexcusable act that lead me to ignore and break the rules of TV Tropes, which in turn were made here on this site to prevent incidents such as edit wars, plagiarism, etc.

Speaking of edit wars, I have learned that to prevent one from happening, I have to make sure that the tropes I'm using are real and widely recognized. As such, before I use a trope and finalize a character page/folder or trope page, I need to consult first with the higher-ups or professional tropers for comments on whether or not the trope I'm using is legitimate, accurate, or both altogether.

Moreover, another good way to not cause an edit war is to use common sense. By using common sense, I mean that if a discussion or argument about a topic isn't going to work out well, the best course of action would be to just drop the subject entirely to ensure that the edit war would cease and wouldn't escalate any further. Or better yet, if you wish to settle it peacefully, talk with the tropers and other contributors via PM so that both sides would be able to find an even ground and reach a mutual understanding about a certain trope or topic discussion, thus solving the conflict in a civil and calm without the need of causing a one-sided or heated argument.

Once again, I apologize for unintentionally causing an edit war over a single trope and other major concerns that came along with it. As such, I humbly wish to appeal for my suspension to be lifted. Rest assured that I promise to be more responsible and careful with my actions next time as much as I won't repeat any of my foolhardy mistakes in the future.

Thank you.

Edited by yuyasakaki406 on Mar 29th 2022 at 1:16:10 AM

@MacronNotes Well, I already made one correct entry here without any mistakes, so will you kindly end my suspension?

So I'm pretty sure I was suspended over indent mistakes but I just wanted to check to make sure that was the case.

Thirty days. One last chance. Yes, this is acceptable. I stated in my first post that I would accept whatever judgment you gave me, and I stand by that. Thank you. Just out of curiosity, would the thirty days be considered to begin today, or yesterday when I first received my suspension notice?

Regardless, I accept your decision and will work on getting to know the site rules better in the meantime.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Mar 29th 2022 at 12:58:47 PM

I fully respect the suspension over indentation. I've been warned enough times about that sort of thing that I deserve to have my editing privileges taken away for a while.

Plus, the edits that I made to B-Team Sequel that have since been reverted don't make as much sense to me in retrospect as they did at the time of editing. Which tells me that, while I would like to edit again, I probably shouldn't be allowed to until I can learn not to edit for the sake of it, on top of the indentation issues. (Another troper privately called me out on that issue a few weeks back, when pointing out how I'd edit the wording on perfectly fine examples like I owned the page or something.)

I guess I came in here to say, yeah, I can't rightfully argue for the immediate reinstatement of my wiki editing privileges, since I don't trust myself not to fall back into these habits if given them back right away. I don't know how long you planned for the suspension to be, but if it's one or two months, I'm not gonna fight that.

Right... I apologize for overreacting...

Anyway, I just went through the message again and I researched other avenues to finding a consensus to prevent or settle an edit war.

I know this won't be enough to excuse me, nor do I have any intention to attempt to defend myself with this, but before I begin... I know for a fact that edit wars aren't necessarily done by malicious people as they are often done by honest and well-meaning tropers and contributors who simply have a different point of view on certain topics. As such, there are cases where both points of view have a point and are worth mentioning. However, the main cause of an edit war is that both sides fail to find a consensus about phrasing the article that would represent all points of view in a neutral yet fair manner.

Back to the main topic, I discovered another avenue in finding a consensus in an edit war would be to look up or engage in (or both) a general message or forum thread in TV Tropes where general/equal discussions, points of view, and even a set of good and helpful pointers about certain articles or tropes are being presented. That way, tropers and contributors who are reading or are present in the thread would be able to reach a fair and mutual level of understanding and agreement about a certain topic and other people's points of view, thus preventing an edit war from escalating even further.

Aside from this, another possibly good avenue in avoiding an edit war would be to also explain your edits thoroughly via an edit summary message and/or to also never defend any of your roll-back edits. By doing so, you would be able to avoid creating conflict and causing a misunderstanding with any tropers or contributors who were also editing the same article(s) you were working at.

Did I get it right or is this still isn't enough?

Then again... if you guys need some time to accept my apology from earlier or take in anything I'm saying in this message above at this moment, I won't rightfully object to it as much as I'll have to accept my current suspension...

Edited by yuyasakaki406 on Mar 29th 2022 at 11:47:22 PM