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KillerRabbit Just wondering from In the Ning Nang Nong Since: Jan, 2001
Just wondering
#126: Aug 4th 2010 at 4:58:30 PM

Out of interest, is there a TTGL thread, before we take any conversation about this particular base breaker any further?

They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams for an instant, then it's night once more
ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#127: Aug 4th 2010 at 4:58:42 PM

I thought the ending to TTGL was perfectly in keeping with the spirit of the show

How? The show was aiming for the idealistic and then ends in a cynical manner just because True Art Is Angsty, I suppose.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#128: Aug 4th 2010 at 4:59:32 PM

@Man with the Plan: Have you seen Lagann-hen? It has a slightly different version of the epilogue that you might prefer somewhat.

I guess it is.
ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#129: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:01:14 PM

^ No, I haven't. Maybe I'll check it out.

But what I'm trying to say on the actual epilogue is that I know the message is to keep pushing on and whatnot but was it really too much to give Simon more of a happy ending than THAT?

edited 4th Aug '10 5:01:31 PM by ManwiththePlan

Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
I'm glasses.
#130: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:01:48 PM

^^I didn't think it was cynical. I think it was firmly in the realm of Bittersweet Ending. And I thought Simon the Wanderer was pretty badass.

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#131: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:01:55 PM

^^ Gainax will always be Gainax?

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PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY
#132: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:02:43 PM

Gainax are whoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhores.

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AsTheAnointed Moronic, pretentious fan from Souf Lundun Since: Jan, 2010
Moronic, pretentious fan
#133: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:03:09 PM

I don't think you should watch it, but you should probably stop calling it 'everything wrong with anime' without having seen more than a fifth of such a short series.

Agreed with Sporkaganza on the ending. Simon's decision to let the next generation flourish rather than clinging to the past perfectly espouses the themes of the series. And he wasn't a hobo, he was a noble, grandfatherly vagrant. A hero of his caliber will never be consigned to the label 'hobo', no matter what his residential circumstances are.

Because I choose to.
KillerRabbit Just wondering from In the Ning Nang Nong Since: Jan, 2001
Just wondering
#134: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:06:35 PM

I'm.... ambivalent about TTGL's ending. The idea to me, is absolutely fine, and was probably the best way to show that Simon and his companions were willing to do anything to stop the Anti-Spiral's prediction coming true. On the other hand, the very sudden execution made it feel more like a kick in the teeth than it had to. Compare FLCL, where the bubble-bursting was spread out over the last two episodes, and which ended up being depressing as hell, but came across as a thoughtful and fitting conclusion.

They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams for an instant, then it's night once more
ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#135: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:11:19 PM

^ Thank you, that's really my problem with the ending too. It came right the fuck outta nowhere and just didn't seem to fit at all.

edited 4th Aug '10 5:11:27 PM by ManwiththePlan

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
Taller than Zim
#136: Aug 4th 2010 at 5:11:20 PM

^^ I honestly think the overeliance on emotion and willpower to the detriment of say, planning, logic or just having the guts to have someone FA Il is one of the things that I like the least about storytelling in general (not just anime)

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Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
I'm glasses.
#137: Aug 4th 2010 at 7:54:30 PM

Well, I can say for sure that if you ever do watch the whole series, you'll like Rossiu.

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#138: Aug 4th 2010 at 8:02:31 PM

Rossiu actually was my favorite character at least the younger version because I felt like I could relate better to him than to anyone else. I actually liked Gurren Lagann overall too.

Anyway, I cannot say I have had bad experiences with the Gurren Lagann fanbase, but I have only really seen it here and on You Tube.

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Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
I'm glasses.
#139: Aug 4th 2010 at 8:13:42 PM

Yeah, that sounds about right. When I think of you, Louie, Hot-Blooded does not spring to mind.

Actually you remind me a little of Nia.

edited 4th Aug '10 8:14:00 PM by Sporkaganza

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#140: Aug 4th 2010 at 8:20:56 PM

Louie = Nia? You know, in a way, that totally works.

I guess it is.
ladycoffee Shotamouse reporting. from your pocket Since: Sep, 2009
Shotamouse reporting.
#141: Aug 4th 2010 at 10:16:29 PM

And I thought Simon the Wanderer was pretty badass.
But it wasn't Simon the Wanderer for me. It was Simon the Hobo. Believe me, there's nothing badass about being a hobo, having seen hobos on a regular basis. At least they could have made him a bit more dignified in the ending than that.

edited 4th Aug '10 10:17:48 PM by ladycoffee

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JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
#142: Aug 4th 2010 at 11:00:19 PM

Can I hate the Hate Dumb for TTGL? I mean, I haven't even watched it, and the Hate Dumb irritates me more than the Fan Dumb who spam boards with the flaming skull symbol.

Half-Life: Dual Nature, a crossover story of reasonably sized proportions.
ladycoffee Shotamouse reporting. from your pocket Since: Sep, 2009
Shotamouse reporting.
#143: Aug 4th 2010 at 11:04:00 PM

Hate Dumb for anything is annoying.

edited 4th Aug '10 11:04:09 PM by ladycoffee

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SirPsychoSexy The Sensui Fan from Texas Panhandle Since: Jan, 2010
The Sensui Fan
#144: Aug 5th 2010 at 8:15:08 AM

^THIS.

What do you call it if you hate the Fan Dumb for something, but also hate the Hate Dumb?

Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell's afraid I'll take over.
KillerRabbit Just wondering from In the Ning Nang Nong Since: Jan, 2001
Just wondering
#145: Aug 5th 2010 at 8:46:54 AM

"Bomb the lot of them into dust and start over again"?

They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams for an instant, then it's night once more
G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#146: Aug 5th 2010 at 10:56:48 AM

NGE fan dumb and hate dumb, both are somewhat missing the point of the show. The most complaints I hear out of this is either 'Shinji is a wimp', 'Asuka is a bitch' or 'Rei is a doormat' and on the reverse side, there is the odd obsession with Rei I will never understand.

Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
I'm glasses.
#147: Aug 5th 2010 at 7:44:50 PM

@Sir Psycho Sexy: "A plague on both your houses", obviously.

edited 5th Aug '10 7:44:55 PM by Sporkaganza

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
emperorzaige Emperor Zaige Since: Dec, 2009
Emperor Zaige
#148: Oct 14th 2010 at 3:35:58 AM

Death Note has a lot of annoying fangirls. Instead of focussing on the plot and the cat and mouse game (which is what the show was all about), they instead focuss on the hotness of the guys. Yes, Death Note had some attractive guys, but could we be a little bit less superficial for once? Also, as hot as it would be, L and Light are not going to just quit and make out. It would defeat the whole perpose of the storyline. Just be happy that there was an erotic foot massage scene and leave it at that.

Drakyndra Her with the hat from Somewhere Since: Jan, 2001
Her with the hat
#149: Oct 14th 2010 at 4:41:26 AM

^ Hey, you can appreciate the show for both reasons.

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emperorzaige Emperor Zaige Since: Dec, 2009
Emperor Zaige
#150: Oct 14th 2010 at 5:10:57 AM

  • Hey, you can appreciate the show for both reasons.

I never said you couldn't, but there seem to be many hardcore fans who don't seem to be able to appreciate anything about the show other than the hot guys. You would think an intelligent show would have more intelligent fans. Apparently not.


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