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One of the many site updates Kory plans to push in the near future is for everyone's user creation to be publicly displayed. However, we didn't start to record user creation dates until sometime pre-2010, so accounts older than that get internally labeled as being created 1/1/2001 even though the site didn't exist back then. So, kory asked me to make this thread on his behalf so that we can get community input on what we should do with accounts that were created pre-2010

EDIT from Kory: Given that the code seems fairly easy, at least in this case, I have a proposal, just need community feedback for options:

Everyone will have the option to just show their regular date OR a drop-down list of options based on their account age such as: (Current Options)

  • < 1 year = ("Pilot", “Private”, "Holding A Herring", “Troper Youngling”, “ Troper in training”, “Greenhorn”, “Newbie”, “The New Guy/Girl/Person”, "Green Spout", "Plucky Enseign", "Apprentice") and ?
  • > 1 year = ("Handed A Sword", "Less Newbie", "Season 1", "Series 1", “Troper Apprentice”, “ Experienced but not yet jaded”, “Life not ruined yet”, “Unitroper”) and ?
  • > 2 years = ("Striking Back", "Season 2", "Series 2", “Sergeant”, "Y2: Electric Boogaloo", "Troper Journeyman", “Experienced Trainee”, "Terrible Twos", “Bitroper”) and ?
  • > 3 years = (“3 is a Magic Number”, "Not-So-Newbie", "Trinitroper", "Searching for Spock", “Troper Squire”, “Rule of Three”, “Tritroper”) and ?
  • > 5 years = (“Five Year Plan”, “Captain”, "Pentatroper", "Fifth Year at Tropey's", “Troper Knight”, “ Five Long Years”) and ?
  • > 7 years = ("Rule of Seven", "Seven Years' War", "Seventh Son”, “Septatroper”, “Spin-off Series”, “4 Score & 7 Years Ago”, “Lucky 7”, "Petty Master") and ?
  • > 10 years = ("Elder Troper", "Long Runner", “Edited uphill both ways”, “Major”, "X-Troper", "Decatroper", “Master Troper”, “Old as dirt”, “Don’t ask”, “Wise, aged troper”, “it’s Ben 10”, “Veteran”, "Ten years in the joint") and ?
  • > 13 years = ("Living Relic", "Sage of the Hills", "Oldest One in the Book", "Ancient one", “Decorated Troper”, “Old Master”, "On A Trope Odyssey", "Unlucky Thirteen", “Troper Sage”, “Marshall", "Emeritus Troper")
  • > 15 years (includes 2001) = ("Precursor", “OG troper”, “Great Old One”, “Before Time Began”, “Troper of Legend”, "Time Abyss", "Primordial Chaos", “ y2k”, “tvtrope Prime”, “Before Recorded History”, “Series Finale”, “Old enough to drive”, “General of TV Troops”, "Mammoth", "Living Relic", "Tropes Time Lord", "Prehistoric Troper") and ?

We would just need to fill these in with some more funny / clever options. I’ll make the list big just like the relationship status so make as many suggestions as you want below!

     Age and # of accounts logged in this year 
  • 1,034 accounts have logged in this year that are > 15 years old
  • 1,428 accounts have logged in this year that are > 14 years old
  • 3,197 accounts have logged in this year that are > 13 years old
  • 5,841 accounts have logged in this year that are > 12 years old
  • 7,837 accounts have logged in this year that are > 11 years old
  • 10,390 accounts have logged in this year that are > 10 years old
  • 19,663 accounts have logged in this year that are > 7 years old
  • 24,102 accounts have logged in this year that are > 5 years old
  • 28,639 accounts have logged in this year that are > 3 years old
  • 31,356 accounts have logged in this year that are > 2 years old
  • 34,476 accounts have logged in this year that are > 1 years old
  • 7,921 accounts have logged in this year that are < 1 years old

So 42,397 users have logged in this year.

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Edited by kory on Aug 1st 2023 at 12:29:50 PM

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76: Jul 10th 2023 at 4:30:25 PM

Ya honestly I’m terrible at design. I’ll just send this to the front end guys and see what they think is best. [tup]

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#77: Jul 10th 2023 at 9:10:39 PM

It now has occured to me that badges aren't visible on mobile. A lot of things to consider.

Edited by Amonimus on Jul 10th 2023 at 7:10:56 PM

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78: Jul 11th 2023 at 3:37:07 PM

Ya im going to fix that in the badges update. This, the badges and troper page updates will be pushed last to make sure it all looks good with everything else.

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dudeu Since: Feb, 2021
#79: Jul 11th 2023 at 6:13:20 PM

The ones that are the oldest even from 2001 could also be named "Before Time Began".

Korodzik Since: Jan, 2001
#80: Jul 12th 2023 at 3:41:41 AM

Suggesting "Great Old One" for the >15 years category.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#81: Jul 13th 2023 at 8:51:07 AM

Awesome, thanks for all the suggestions guys! I think we have enough to get started but ill leave the choices open until we actually push this live. grin

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YourEternalTroper Master of the Multiverse (He/Him/His) from The Center of the Multiverse Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Master of the Multiverse (He/Him/His)
#82: Jul 14th 2023 at 12:11:19 AM

New account: Recruit

5 days: Private

4 months: Private First Class

8 months: Specialist

1 year: Corporal

2 years: Sergeant

2 years 6 months: Staff Sergeant

3 years: Sergeant First Class

3 years 4 months: Master Sergeant

3 years 8 months: First Sergeant

4 years: Sergeant Major

4 years 6 months: Mod Sergeant Major

5 years: Sergeant Major of TV Tropes

6 years: Second Lieutenant

6 years 5 months: First Lieutenant

7 years: Captain

8 years: Major

9 years: Lieutenant Colonel

10 years: Colonel

11 years: Brigadier General

12 years: Major General

13 years: Lieutenant General

14 years: General

15 years: General of TV Tropes

Since 2001: Original Troper

Edited by YourEternalTroper on Jul 19th 2023 at 2:24:57 AM

Everything that lives is designed to end...
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#83: Jul 14th 2023 at 2:55:01 AM

[up] Half-seriously wonder if TV Troops can be shoved in here.

Edited by Amonimus on Jul 14th 2023 at 12:55:24 PM

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84: Jul 15th 2023 at 5:58:40 PM

Added to OP:

  • < 1 year: “Private”
  • > 2 years: “Sergeant”
  • > 5 years: “Captain”
  • > 10 year: “Major”
  • > 15 year: “General of TV Troops

Edited by kory on Jul 15th 2023 at 6:02:24 AM

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JujuP Since: Jul, 2013
#85: Jul 16th 2023 at 11:27:36 AM

My suggestions for pre-2010 accounts: "Mammoth", "Living Relic", "TV Tropes Time Lord" or "Prehistoric Troper" because they are literally older than the time when creaton date was recorded.

For other cases:

  • Less than three months: "Green Spout"
  • Less than one year: "Newbie", "Plucky Enseign" or "Apprentice"
  • Less than five years: "Journeyman", "Private"
  • Less than seven years: "Petty Master"
  • Less than ten years: "Master Troper", "Veteran"
  • Older accounts: "Marshall", "Emeritus Troper"

Else, could we consider specific titles for each year of creation, i.e. 2023 might have a specific title, 2024 another, etc...

I found good suggestions for eventual titles here, here

Zanreo Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#86: Aug 1st 2023 at 12:23:51 PM

If you're still adding these, I got a silly reference for 10+: Ten years in the joint

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#87: Aug 1st 2023 at 12:31:32 PM

Added to OP.

Also, i can continually add choices forever even after its live. We can just do it in batches. So after this is live if we get another 10+ choices we can add them all in a quick hotfix.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#88: Aug 14th 2023 at 12:19:09 AM

Can options in the select also display for how many years they apply?

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#89: Aug 14th 2023 at 12:24:31 AM

Ya sure i can add that.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#90: Aug 14th 2023 at 2:14:18 AM

I think it would make sense to sort them by age labels, instead of mixing them all together alphabetically.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#91: Aug 14th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM

Ya agreed, i had a similar thought after it actually went live lol. I'll add the years and have them sorted to show what you're unlocking at which years.

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
One-Track Mind (he/him)
#92: Aug 23rd 2023 at 3:03:50 PM

Some forum posts made by tropers say they created their accounts in January 2001, even tho the site didn't exist until around 2004, I believe.

I brought this up in this query but was directed here. I want to see if we can come up with anything that might fix this problem. Kory told me I could suggest options here, but nothing's coming to mind.

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#93: Aug 23rd 2023 at 3:18:56 PM

You should’ve read the OP. The text display option is the fix by offering other options. It’s not causing any problems so there’s no reason to “fix” it.

Edited by kory on Aug 23rd 2023 at 3:19:17 AM

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
One-Track Mind (he/him)
#94: Aug 23rd 2023 at 4:06:00 PM

[up] "The text display option is the fix by offering other options."

So...the text display option is the fix...and we can fix it by offering other options? So the text display option fixed it already, but we can also fix it if we can suggest other options to go doing so?

What in god's holy name are you blathering about?

[down]Ah, that makes sense. I was confused because of Kory's poor wording. Thanks for clarifying.

Edited by JHD0919 on Aug 23rd 2023 at 7:18:22 AM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#95: Aug 23rd 2023 at 4:15:46 PM

Since the user creation display was the solution, I think it's clear that there's no real way to fix the internal date of accounts that display as "January 1, 2001". It's up to individual users if they want to change their user display date to one of the custom options.

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#96: Aug 23rd 2023 at 4:39:48 PM

I was confused because of Kory's poor wording

If you actually read the OP, it would be perfectly clear. Please refrain from making posts without fulling reading the OP, everything is already explained there.

Edited by kory on Aug 23rd 2023 at 4:41:09 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#97: Oct 4th 2023 at 11:50:20 AM

I noticed my profile creation date is in 2014, but I have edits going back to 2011, and I may have been around longer than that. Any reason for the discrepancy?

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#98: Oct 4th 2023 at 12:16:29 PM

Some accounts made before 2014 don’t have accurate join dates because the database wasn’t properly tracking it back then. Once this company bought it in 2014 they made it start tracking dates more accurately.

Edited by kory on Oct 4th 2023 at 12:19:48 PM

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