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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#1: Mar 7th 2022 at 4:32:47 PM

CIA Evil, FBI Good cleanup:

Due to misuse, this trope is undergoing intensive cleanup to prevent past, present, and future misuse.

For starters, any moral contrast which lacks either organization or a fictional counterpart should be moved to Good Policing, Evil Policing. Any lack of moral contrast should be moved to Jurisdiction Friction or Interservice Rivalry as needed.

Any examples of the CIA being portrayed as corrupt without the FBI for comparison, can be moved to Sinister Spy Agency if need be.

Any examples of the FBI being portrayed in a positive light without CIA for comparison can be moved to By-the-Book Cop.

Any examples of the FBI portrayed as corrupt without the CIA can be moved to Dirty Cop which has "Filthy Feds" as a redirect, and has a line about portrayals of FBI corruption.

Positive CIA portrayals which exclude the FBI comparison, can possibly go to Covert Group.

Any examples of CIA or FBI personnel struggling with unethical actions can go to Dirty Business.

The rest of the categories are self explanatory, though. CIA Evil, FBI Good goes to one folder set, FBI Evil, CIA Good goes to another folder set, and other moral contrasts go in the bottom row of folders.

Any moral contrast between the CIA and FBI or their fictional counterparts specifically is kept, and added to CIA Evil, FBI Good under one of the three sections. I suppose we can be flexible and include historical counterpart comparisons as well, but if it is a contrast between any other organizations, or if it just includes one organization/fictional/historical counterpart and an entirely different organization, it gets moved to Good Policing, Evil Policing.

In any case, please feel free to consult the thread on examples you feel are misuse.

And remember, the trope is Spoilers Off due to the frequency of reveals.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 18th 2022 at 10:12:40 AM

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WarriorsGate Since: Jan, 2012
#2: Mar 7th 2022 at 4:49:10 PM

"Not sure what to do about positive CIA portrayals which exclude the FBI comparison, TBH."

There's Covert Group, and also Dirty Business if they angst about doing nasty shit.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#3: Mar 7th 2022 at 5:02:39 PM

Thanks.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Mar 10th 2022 at 11:21:27 AM

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randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#4: Mar 9th 2022 at 4:26:54 PM

Also I'm not sure portrayals of the CIA as villains in non American works counts as CIA bad, given it seems more of a statement about the US government in general.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#6: Mar 10th 2022 at 8:22:39 AM

Guys. If there is no moral contrast, there is no trope. If either organization is missing from the contrast, there is no trope. At least not this one.

I thought we already established this.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Mar 10th 2022 at 11:25:57 AM

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randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#7: Mar 11th 2022 at 11:47:36 PM

[up]Yeah I didn't realize that until I read the sandbox.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#8: Oct 19th 2022 at 9:10:35 AM

Noting that this cleanup has now been added to Pages With Cleanup Projects.

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