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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#176: Aug 19th 2021 at 12:29:51 PM

If that's the case, I'd just cut it.

Anyway, how about we also add Commonality Connection to the disambig? It shows up a lot as well.

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#177: Aug 19th 2021 at 12:39:35 PM

Should Mirror Character, Mirroring Factions, and Evil Counterpart be added as well? The latter is a very closely related trope.

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#178: Aug 19th 2021 at 1:47:11 PM

[up][up][up] I rewrote the example to focus on the parts that are relevant to "Not So Different" Remark.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#179: Aug 19th 2021 at 2:36:32 PM

So here's what I think we have for the disambig:

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 19th 2021 at 5:36:42 AM

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#180: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:58:25 PM

Add The Horseshoe Effect, maybe? That pops up a fair amount, too. But otherwise that looks good for the disambig.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#181: Aug 22nd 2021 at 12:02:08 AM

Anyway, we're at 11090 now. Still working through Character/.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#182: Aug 22nd 2021 at 12:35:18 PM

How are we handling wicks on Fanfic Recs pages if the trope is listed under "Tropes include:"? Do we remove them as there's not enough context to judge?

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#183: Aug 22nd 2021 at 1:57:00 PM

I'd say yeah. We should clean up under an "assume misuse if insufficient/no context given", and it's better to be absent than wrong.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#184: Aug 22nd 2021 at 3:59:45 PM

[up] That's what I've been doing.

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#185: Aug 22nd 2021 at 6:20:30 PM

[up][up] Gotcha. That namespace is done.

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 22nd 2021 at 8:20:40 AM

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#186: Aug 23rd 2021 at 3:28:27 AM

10987

I will admit that I've only tackled the easy ones - those that could be removed or renamed to "Not So Different" Remark, hope that's alright.

Question: Is there any special rule regarding removing wicks from WMG pages?

[down] Alright, thank you [tup]

Edited by BlackFaithStar on Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:07:40 PM

Creepypasta cleanup got two major pages for JTK and Slender
selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#187: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:23:03 PM

Nope, treat it like any normal trope page.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#188: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:40:17 PM

Disambig draft ahoy:


"Not So Different" no longer exists as a page on this wiki. Instead, you may be looking for one of these pages:

  • Commonality Connection: Two characters form a bond due to having something in common.
  • Foil: A character who highlights another character's trait(s), usually by contrast.
  • Evil Counterpart: A character who has similarities to a good or not as evil character, but is evil(er).
  • The Horseshoe Effect: People on differing extremes are indistinguishable in behavior.
  • Mirror Character: A character who significantly reflects another's traits.
  • Mirroring Factions: Two organizations are much more similar than they first appear.
  • "Not So Different" Remark: Two characters or groups of characters at odds realize they have a little more in common than they really want to admit.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 24th 2021 at 3:40:26 PM

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#189: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:48:15 PM

We didn't take the "usually" out of the Foil laconic when we updated the description, did we. I'll go run that through the laconic thread.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#190: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:49:35 PM

Yeah, I just copy and pasted what was there.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#191: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:14:51 PM

Bump. Can I go ahead and make the swap? Any alterations can be done in post.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#193: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:53:35 PM

Made the swap. Afterwards I realized:

  • We still have videos under the trope
  • We never cut the sandbox

Also, now I can finally see how many wicks "Not So Different" Remark has. It's at 2207.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 26th 2021 at 3:54:11 PM

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#194: Aug 26th 2021 at 8:55:10 PM

I was just wondering why the title Not So Different can't be used as an Index. Something like These Tropes Are Not So Different, or something like that. Basically, a title for a family of tropes centered around similarities and differences. Unless there's an index about that and I don't realize it.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#195: Aug 26th 2021 at 8:57:07 PM

Well, besides the ones on the index and their subtropes (which, in the case of foil, are already indexed), what would the index consist of?

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#196: Aug 26th 2021 at 9:00:26 PM

Mirror Character also contains an index. I think between the two, most everything that would be associated are there.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#197: Aug 26th 2021 at 9:18:50 PM

That conversion actually lets me access the video examples, so which video should be moved where?

Already moved Savages to Mirroring Factions.

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#198: Aug 26th 2021 at 9:22:10 PM

“More like me than you know” seems like a solid case for "Not So Different" Remark.

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#200: Aug 27th 2021 at 1:54:17 PM

Okay, that one's moved.

Edit: Same for the Indiana Jones one.

Edit 2: Sent another video to Commonality Connection.

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 27th 2021 at 4:03:06 AM

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