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#27: Jan 2nd 2021 at 10:09:50 AM

BUPKIS. Current sucks (it's illegible on mobile and low quality besides) and there's little to no way to illustrate this without overlap with Damage-Sponge Boss.

Edited by Karxrida on Jan 2nd 2021 at 10:17:22 AM

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#28: Jan 2nd 2021 at 10:21:37 AM

Cropped an HD screenshot:

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#29: Jan 3rd 2021 at 2:52:09 AM

...So what is a Damage-Sponge Boss anyway and how is it different from Marathon Boss? The description for Damage-Sponge Boss seems to contradict itself. The first paragraph says that it's "a basic type of boss, basically a standard enemy with higher health and stats", while the second paragraph seems to imply that it's a boss that takes an especially long time to defeat.

Anyway, I like [up] and 25.

Edited by TrueShadow1 on Jan 3rd 2021 at 5:52:54 PM

Drope Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#30: Jan 3rd 2021 at 4:22:29 AM

[up]A Damage Sponge only has a ton of HP.

A Marathon Boss is an incredibly long boss, which can be due to HP or some other reason like multiple forms or a gimmick that extends the fight more than it should. It's a Super-Trope.

Edited by Drope on Jan 3rd 2021 at 4:27:16 AM

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#32: Jan 10th 2021 at 9:33:24 AM

Votes bump; one in the green right now.

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#33: Jan 10th 2021 at 11:07:56 AM

[up][up][up]In that instance, I feel like the current caption is necessary, since it points out all the additional gimmicks that lead to the boss fight's ridiculous length. Simply illustrating/pointing out the boss's enormous health pool only shows Damage-Sponge Boss, which is also currently illustrated by a "ridiculously large health bar" image.

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#34: Jan 10th 2021 at 6:19:01 PM

I think Damage-Sponge Boss needs a TRS or something. This is the second paragraph from Damage-Sponge Boss, and it's basically describing Marathon Boss.

It doesn't make a difference whether it just has a humongous life bar, or extremely high defense so it only takes Scratch Damage, or that it has Regenerating Health almost as quickly as you damage it; in all cases, depleting its life bar takes forever. But if there's a trick to negating its defense or regeneration, you have an example of Puzzle Boss instead. Put this kind of boss on a time limit and you'll have lots of very angry players.

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#35: Jan 10th 2021 at 6:47:18 PM

[up]Not really. A Damage-Sponge Boss can have gimmicks of its own are tied to its HP like healing or high defense. It wouldn't be a good damage sponge otherwise.

Again, the Marathon Boss is defined by length. The Damage Sponge is defined by HP. Different concepts, which are clearly defined by their names.

A boss with 5 forms is not a Damage Sponge. Nor a giant boss where most of the fight consists of a half-hour Colossus Climb. Or a particularly complex Puzzle Boss. I've personally met those 3 examples in my gaming life. Meanwhile, there are Damage Sponges that are simple enough you won't take very long to defeat, although the fight will likely be boring anyway.

There are plenty of examples to differentiate it. Damage Sponge again is a subtrope, meaning overlaps will always exist.

Marathon Boss does need folders though.

Edited by Drope on Jan 10th 2021 at 7:16:17 AM

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#36: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:45:05 PM

Again, the Marathon Boss is defined by length. The Damage Sponge is defined by HP. Different concepts, which are clearly defined by their names.

Then why is our leading suggestion (28 as if this post) completely reliant on the HP bar?

Edited by Karxrida on Jan 10th 2021 at 10:17:29 AM

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#37: Jan 10th 2021 at 10:30:35 PM

[up]Because all suggestions rely on health bar. I don't like either suggestions BTW.

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#38: Jan 11th 2021 at 4:13:32 AM

As I said before, it's very difficult to illustrate that a boss is long without showing absurd HP (which is the territory of the Damage-Sponge Boss). The problem lies more in the nature of images.

Theoretically, there are other ways, but I dunno if I can ever find the right image.

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#39: Jan 12th 2021 at 6:25:09 AM

One more bump; two in the green, one vote separating them.

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#40: Jan 13th 2021 at 8:25:34 AM

Calling for no pic for now. It's pulled and the page is tagged; locking up.

Old pic:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/yiazmat3.jpg

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