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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#9451: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:05:26 AM

And there's complaining about complaining about complaining about complaining about complaining about complaining...

Though, there are complaints that are worth complaining about.

Edit: why is this a page-topper?

Edited by fredhot16 on Nov 25th 2020 at 10:08:11 AM

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#9452: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:26:38 AM

As I mentioned in the Mandalorian topic, minichlorians never bothered me because I reversed correlation and causation compared to most people; when I heard the line I saw it as "midichlorians show up in high amounts in the blood of those strong in the Force" rather than "midichlorians cause someone to be strong in the Force."

So since the implication now is that they're trying to give Force powers using blood high in midichlorians, looks like my interpretation has been jossed.

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#9453: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:34:10 AM

I recall Lucas saying that in his unfinished version of the ST, midichlorians would turn out to be literally living beings called the Whills who create the Force and to whom our bodies are basically “cars”.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#9454: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:43:16 AM

Would that make Anakin a Porsche or a Ferrari?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#9455: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:44:05 AM

Depends if it's before or after the lava bath.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#9457: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:47:19 AM

And they're both disabled parking spots.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#9458: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:47:43 AM

I think until Midichlorians came around people liked to view the force in the same way as general spiritualism or eastern ki, it's just something anyone can have in this setting and can harness with the right discipline. Midichlorians was an overt scientific discussion of the force, and came across as explaining the mechanics. But with the addition of significantly more supernatural aspects of the force like alchemy and witchcraft, the line between science and sorcery is not that far apart, especially in a science fantasy setting like Star Wars.

With the concept of Midichlorians Palpatines claims to creating life and preventing death in ROTS feel less abstract and more of an attainable goal.

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#9459: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:03:52 AM

Now I’m remembering in Vader’s comic series Triple Zero also brings up the possibility of gaining Force sensitivity through blood infusion, even theorizing the enhancement could work on droids. Granted he was already the more conventional type of bloodthirsty. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 25th 2020 at 11:04:48 AM

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#9460: Nov 25th 2020 at 1:49:15 PM

[up] I remember reading somewhere that type of blood infusion would most likely just kill the patient.

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#9461: Nov 25th 2020 at 2:57:21 PM

Uhm, why are people posting spoilers in the spoiler-free thread now?

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Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#9462: Nov 25th 2020 at 5:19:55 PM

Because while it’s a spoiler free thread it’s also on the movie board so it’s more than likely that some people haven’t experienced the comic books and shows so it would be a bit rude to spoiler them.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#9463: Nov 25th 2020 at 6:13:34 PM

The OP doesn't specify a specific timeframe for how long a piece of content has to be out for it to not be a "spoiler", but I think even the most recent Mandalorian episode is at worst an edge-case at this point.

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#9464: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:42:23 AM

If I’m not mistaken, the general forum rule for spoilers on regularly (weekly) released content is just until the next episode releases. Stuff longer than that like movie installments is a month I think, but it also depends on public availability of the media (I.e. manga usually drop spoiler tag use after the first new page or two of discussion following online release)

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#9465: Nov 27th 2020 at 11:20:12 PM

Did Palpatine ever have a long term end goal with Maul? Unlike in Legends where Plagueis dies around the same time, Palpatine killed Plagueis then made Maul an apprentice so he's a legitimate Sith under the Rule of Two. And as far as I can tell in the new canon he didn't know Anakin existed until the events of The Phantom Menace, so he may have actually wanted Maul as part of his "kill the Jedi and create the Empire" plan

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9466: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:13:05 AM

Maul indicates that he knew all about the plan and was evidently supposed to be part of it in The Clone Wars, so at the very least he might have intended to be a Dooku-esque figure.

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#9467: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:18:27 AM

Maul was a legit Sith Apprentice, in contrast with Dooku who was very obviously just a placeholder and a pawn from the get-go.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9468: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:19:34 AM

There's a case to be made that Maul was the same way. Palpatine never treated him as anything more important than an attack dog. Even Dooku got to learn things that Maul wasn't privy to (like lightning)

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 28th 2020 at 12:19:45 PM

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#9469: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:21:51 AM

The Force Lightning was something Dooku learned by himself long before he joined Palpatine.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9470: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:31:59 AM

Is that a new retcon? It's the first I've heard of that.

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#9471: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:34:42 AM

It's from a canon audiobook released April 2019.

Basically, Dooku was subjected to a painful Force Vision when he was captured by a cult known as the Presagers of Hakotei, and he somehow awakened the ability to conjure Force Lightning as a result.

Edited by M84 on Nov 29th 2020 at 4:37:09 AM

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#9472: Nov 28th 2020 at 1:22:08 AM

and thats if you don't count the stuff that Maul does know force lightning he just doesn't use it as an attack, he uses it as a buff for himself putting him in a state of pain to cause his bloodlust and focus to kick in.

Basically a Self damaging lightning shroud to up his pain tolerance and push his body past its more comfortable limits

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#9473: Nov 28th 2020 at 2:06:53 AM

[up] That's the first time I've heard of a technique like that.

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#9475: Nov 28th 2020 at 3:56:21 AM

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