Fire Emblem Three Houses (Spoiler Thread)

Of course rivers of blood would be mentioned. We all know that Hubert is actually a vampire.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 27th 2021 at 11:26:14 AM

@Aleistar that is exactly correct. They already get from me minus point for making them all warriors loving fighting and being more male dominated than Fódlan as seen in gameplay. Even the Agarthans employ women in their army, I have not seen one female Wyvernlord in any battle with Almyra, not even Edelgard's paralouge. Also they made them all mounted archers for the most part, which is not how warfare or specialisation works. The Mongols and Persians had a diverse army of infantry and heavy Calvary as well, they could have given Almyra great Knights and Armoured Knights as well.

I honestly had a lot of respect for Hubert even before playing CF, as on VW/SS he - unlike some people - actually has a backup plan for dealing with TWSITD in case the Empire loses the war.

How the characters are portrayed is honestly fine for a fantasy strategy game, but to me VW had a different sort of Unfortunate Implications. Namely, how Fodlan is apparently incapable of sorting out its issues without an outside influence.

Hubert is pretty cool as a villian and more amusing to watch than Aelfric. However I am not sure if his loyalty to Edelgard is based on his indoctrination from his childhood or his beliefs and convictions? The biggest criticism I have for 3H is how inconsistent they are with the characterisation for almost anything in the story, that includes CF's final boss.

I mean the very goddess most of Fódlan worships is also a foreign entity, so from the very beginning was Fódlan a land influenced by things from the outside. The biggest irony is that they hate foreigners, despite having to thank a foreigner their way of life, namely Sothis healing the continent after the war with Agartha.

The writers have said that they wanted people to come away with a very different view of the characters and setting depending on the route. They definitely succeeded, but I feel like there were times they sacrificed internal consistency to do so.

But the thing about cultures in the real world is that they aren't discrete, unchanging, and isolated. Cultures influence each other all the time. New technologies spread, languages borrow words and forms, religions cross national boundaries, et cetera.

And who gets to say that Sothis is foreign to Fodlan? She's been living there for millennia.

Edited by MisterTambourineMan on Feb 28th 2021 at 4:55:10 AM

But you don't really learn that about Sothis until the end of VW. While Claude being the Only Sane Man who actually questions anything makes sense plot-wise, it also has a side effect of the Fodlan natives appearing really apathetic towards the truth behind their religion and having to have a foreigner interfere in order to fix things. Even Edelgard is partially motivated by knowing stuff that nobody else knows.

The Church of Seiros is based directly on the Catholic Church, and for the bulk of its history Christianity has had the greatest spread, influence, and power in Europe (which Fódlan resembles) and northern Africa; yet Christianity, as well as Christ himself, came from Judaea, a foreign location and a vassal state of the Roman Empire. Christianity itself arose from the Zoroastrian-influenced sects of Judaism, which come from Iran and Israel respectively.

They just needed to agree on where the character says"No, I won't do that" and all will be fine. Dedue in CF makes sense because in all routes has he been shown to be pragmatic with his desire to see Dimitri's wishes to be fulfilled and I do see no problem for him to turn into a demonic beast just to help him. Hilda has really no idea about,where Khalid came from nor his true ideals, so there exists no conflict with their interests despite her Fantastic Racism. She can leave him if you lobby her enough, but she does show concern for him, even on opposite sides. Hubert on the other hand is either the product of long-standing traditions and social conditioning to be a yes-man to Edelgard and has the expectation that she is the perfect Emperor she herself has to be(despite being frustrated by it) or really,REALLY is agreeing with her very hard.

There is no real outside perspective in the continent of Fódlan per Word of God, so Khalid was given this unique roles, because the other 4 voices who could give it are not the best people for this job. One of them is blindly loyal to the religious authority's failings and considered to be an unreliable narrator, the other is blindly loyal to a mad king and treating him as a White saviour(which the King dislikes), another one is betting on the hope that the Conqueror would make the people of Fódlan see this person's people as equals and thus also becomes a white saviour(which doesn't matter to her) or oppose the Emperor and get the same thing done with any other promising leader of the continent after the war. And the last person is a Sniper who cares little for such problems. Sothis came from space and is not born in Fódlan, so she is by this definition, foreign. I would not go as far as some pro-Agarthan fans with this definition, because they believe Sothis forcefully converted the Agarthans a long ago.

Edited by Tropetalker on Feb 28th 2021 at 3:25:18 PM

I’d say Hubert is funnier than a lot of the comic reliefs due to the Batman factor.

In my opinion it might as well be a combination of those factors + the affection he (by his own admission) began feeling for her at one point. Sometimes there isn't just one cause for something, and there's even a term for that (multicausality I think).

Dude also doesn't mince words whatsoever and that amuses the heck out of me, in particular in his support chain with Ferdinand.

On a more unrelated note, someone on reddit finally did a proper translation for the lyrics of Spirit Dais & God Shattering Star, with a bit more of an analysis included.

Edited by Blackress on Feb 28th 2021 at 9:04:03 PM

I unironically believe that if Edelgard didn't have her beliefs, Hubert just wouldn't be as loyal to her as he would have.

So in a world where Edelgard is not driven by any moral ethos, would Hubert betray her?

Well my hot take is that Hilda would be loyal to Khalid even if she knew he was an Almyran.

Hubert is a pretty big believer in how Edelgard intends to change the nobility system into something more proactive and meritocratic.

As a result, I find it interesting how they both treat Linhardt.

Agreed. Heck, I dare say Edelgard's support chain with Linhardt is easily one of her best supports.

What about Edelgard and Caspar? This is one of the better BE supports IMO

Part of me wants Wicked Binge to do a Good-to-Evil on Three Houses, but it would be easy to mess up.

But it would be interesting to see who they would call the most good character in the game. (The most evil is either Thales or Nemesis)

Then the most good people would be Flayn and Seteth. Byleth doesn't count.

Gatekeeper is the best character.

Seteth and Flayn broke the law with identity fraud. It's no joke, millions of families suffer every year.

My vote goes to Raphael, though Seteth & Flayn are good picks as well.

x4 I think it's good too, though I personally like her support chain with Linhardt more overall.

As for recent news, fedatamine.com began working on the game's calendar script just a few days ago. No idea if there's anything new yet to discover in it (haven't checked it yet).

For me, Thales is definitely the most evil character in the game.

Nemesis is pretty high up on the scale of evilness as well, but he's ultimately just a puppet dancing on strings and doesn't quite match Thales in terms of evilness.

As for the character who would be the most good? I can't really pick out the "most good" in particular, but I can definitely name a couple I'd think would be good candidates: Flayn, Ignatz, Raphael, and Lindhardt come to mind.

Isn't Ferdinand a pretty good guy, wanting to keep Edelgard honest, and being somewhat egalitarian and all that?

Or is he being left out cause he's kinda an idiot?

Ferdinand has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth but he's actually a pretty good guy, and is arguably one of the more progressive-minded characters when it comes to reforming society when it comes to digging deep in his supports.

To this day, I find it hilarious that it's Ferdinand and Lorenz of all people who actually introduce public education into Fodlan.

No, we're leaving him out because we forgot he existed. That's how garbage he is.

I find it impossible to forget he exists. He told me his name only 150 times or so.

I wonder who the most evil student is. ...Besides Hubert, I mean.