Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

I've been wondering about that more and more these days, and I think the sci-fi genre is too... rigid about that. People can and do relate to things that are inhuman, as long as there's enough human about them to make that connection happen.

But here in the age of CGI in addition to all the physical affects we're capable, it's becoming increasingly easy to make non-human protagonists extremely human to the point where that doesn't matter. There's also the habit of using "these characters aren't relateable" as a scapegoat for what is actually poor writing, and I think audiences and developers today are starting to recognize the difference more and more.

I don't see a Hutt protagonist winning any minds any time soon, but a Tortruga, or a Zabrak, or maybe even something like a Rodian might.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2019 at 10:55:10 AM

> I don't see a Hutt protagonist winning any minds any time soon, but a Tortruga, or a Zabrak, or maybe even something like a Rodian might.

Or even a Twi'lek (honestly surprised they've not gone with a more obvious choice,granted their backstory about being a race of strippers is a little iffy..)

Edited by Ultimatum on May 5th 2019 at 5:57:18 PM

Yeah, there a fair amount of aliens that are just humans in paint.

Come to think of it, it's kind of surprising that Hera has been our only Twilek protagonist thus far, given that they're one of the classic visible races of the Star Wars universe. Even Aayla Secura only really got two second appearances.

On the other hand, with Star Wars' severe Planet of Hats / Planet of Copyhats problem, I guess that's not so surprising. Dave Filoni kind of made it a thing that he would subverting and lampshading species expectations in his shows, but even in the old EU days he was the only one I can remember who was seriously doing it.

Talking about the films I think it's all to do with merchandising ,that's how George Lucus make his money back in the day,actions figures of human beings probably sell better (and easier to make to order too) then aliens or monster action figures,so it makes why their main heros are always human

I do admit that Fallen Order would be interesting with a customizable Jedi protagonist (hell, any Star Wars game would), but I'm personally not that bugged by it being a human person.

My character in Star Wars Galaxies was a Twi'lek. That game had a lot of different races, as I recall! I remember seeing a forum thread about people getting married in-game and owning land.

I don't mind the main character not being customizable, I don't even mind them being human, but I do think they went the blandest most bog standard design for him as humanly - no pun intended - possible.

I remember someone describing him as "whiter than whitebread" when the trailer came out, and I don't think I could come up with a better description myself.

Even the Canon of Star Wars has affirmed that human or near human races account for the majority of the Galaxy. There is no human homeworld, they refer to their planets like it is a hometown. Past and current EU confirms that the Empire was human-centric and not by accident.

That said the original trilogy and prequels did seek to include aliens whenever possible, and they ended up composing more and more of the supporting cast like Akbar. In terms of new, memorable, creative alien characters the sequels have just Snoke and BB-8, one of which is divisive as a Palpatine clone and the other is largely an R2 clone. I was disappointed that alien pilot buddy of Poe existed to literally stand around, mostly because of the novelty of an alien in the traditional flight suit that could give us a Lower Decks Episode perspective.

Yeah it’s like they weren’t even trying with his look.

I’ve been watching a lot of The Office recently & he reminds me of Pete cause of how generic Pete looks.

Like, hell, I wouldn't even mind him being another white protag if they gave him a beard or a scar or an interesting hairstyle or something.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he's made to be a knockoff Luke specifically because he's going to be a contrast. Like, if it all ends with him not being the generic whitebread Jedi archetype and turning to the dark side or something.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2019 at 1:38:21 AM

Apparently, the next Star Wars film after The Rise of Skywalker will be made by the showrunners of Games of Thrones. I've never seen that show, but given the negative reactions I've seen about it lately, I doubt many people are going to like this news.

Eh,they ran out of material to adapt from and then had to make things up as they went along with poor results,and everyone is griping about it.

I'm more interested in what their idea of a Star Wars movie is, obviously Star Wars is largely aimed at families so it won;t be anywhere near as graphic as their previous work,it can have violence,like a bit of gore like loosing a limb or something but not buckets of blood.It's important to remember that since Disney Star Wars they will be watching closely,effectively peering over theirs shoulders,every decision met with their stamp of approval,in a way it's going to be fairly restrained compared to working on Game of thrones

What, you mean the show with record high views? Yeah clearly anything made by those folks will do poorly

it might have high ratings but they will still have to contend with Star Wars fans who were also fans of their show and were left disappointed

And record high dissatisfaction with the show.

I'm personally quite curious how D&d would tackle Star Wars, but I'm biased because my care for this franchise fell off a cliff since The Last Jedi and the Force Awakens. By now I'm just happy to see whatever new creative minds can come up with for this franchise. D&d have their problems, but no bigger than J.J Abrams and Rian Johnson for me.

I heard they were rushing the end of Thrones just to get to Star Wars sooner. I don't know what they could turn out when left to their own devices, so I'm not going to say it's a good or bad thing yet.

For a moment I thought you were talking about Dungeons and Dragons and was really confused.

i do too,though thankfully it takes a moment for brain to realise the error

"What the hell has Dungeon and Dragons got to with this?!"

I'm kinda sad at how little I'm interested in this movie.

I didn't like Force Awakens. I didn't like Rogue One. I DID like The Last Jedi, but it was so hated that I feel like an idiot for liking it. And now they seem like they're going to be walking back the one film of this lot that I enjoyed. So... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to care about.

I liked both TFA and especially TLJ, but I have no idea how they're gonna wrap up all the storylines in a single movie, so my enthusiasm is also not that high…

Clone Emperor wrecking everyone’s shit, that’s how!