Captain Marvel - Spoilers

The family part is 100% canon; Monica specifically says that due to Carol's problems with her own family, Monica and Maria became her family. Which, now that I think about it, is something you heard from LGBT people in the 90's a lot.

Her father being abusive is definitely a thing taken from the comics. I wonder what happened to her brother(s) though. It seemed like she had a good relationship with the one that was shown from the scene of them looking at the stars together.

They did imply that her dad was kinda of a dick in this movie.

To be fair, the few stories which are marked Carol/Yon-Rogg I saw on Ao 3 were all about exploring the wrongness of their relationship, and often they are very one-sided (meaning Yon-Rogg has thoughts about Carol she isn't quite aware of).

I guess in the mind of a lot of people Carol is at the very least Bi, but I don't care either way. I take a strong sisterly relationship between two woman who supported each other through difficult times, too.

Apparently in the comics Carol had a brother who died, which might explain some things about her bad family situation despite seemingly having a brother she was close to in childhood who could've helped her.

Honestly, I hope that they won't adapt that part of her story. Why can't she simply have a bad relationship with her family because they disapproved of her life choices?

It probably wouldn't be practical to anyway. I don't know if there's much to be gained from going more in depth into her backstory before the Kree abducted her. We already know enough based on the flashbacks we got. Nevertheless that doesn't preclude her brother's death from being canon - just not something they have to state explicitly in the movies

Edited by Xopher001 on Mar 18th 2019 at 12:40:24 PM

I think fleshing out her dealing with sexism throughout her life would have made that amount of her defeating the supreme intelligent impactful.

Speaking of her backstory, her time on Starforce needed to be fleshed out more as well as Captain Midnight pointed out in his video.

Edited by ManOfSin on Mar 18th 2019 at 7:53:30 AM

On the other hand keeping it brief allows the audience, especially the female audience, to project their own experiences of "falling down" (or getting pushed down) into it, hence forging a more personal connection to the moment when Brie "stands up" so to speak.

And Captain Midnight has lost all credibility as a reviewer for this movie when he started to push the "Brie Larson impacts the box office of the movie" narrative and then decided to take the whole "Disney manipulates the Box office" story seriously. If someone goes into a movie, any movie, already resenting it, said movie will most likely fail to engage said person.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 18th 2019 at 4:58:16 AM

He does make a very good point. This is basically a watered down version of She-Ra. Those are my words not his.

Edited by ManOfSin on Mar 18th 2019 at 8:08:32 AM

Which is a useless reference for me, since I don't care about She-Ra at all. I know next to nothing about her. In fact, the only thing I now is that there was recently a huge fuss made around the new character design for reasons which were just as idiotic as the "Captain Marvel will fail" narrative.

There are a couple of highly critical reviews from people I respect and who make some good points. But I refuse to listen to those, who buy into the culture war narrative.

A defector from evil is a really popular and broad trope. Comparing Captain Marvel and She-Ra feels kind of shallow.

The She-Ra similarities amuse me, but i think it’s kinda unfair to compare them since a TV show has more time to flesh itself out while the movie had to compress 40 to 50 years of characters and material.

Get into the nitty-gritty of “who copied each other”, and one could even argue the new She-Ra lifted a bunch of its material from Noelle Stevenson’s own Runaways: Secret Wars miniseries with Marvel. (Bear in my mind, I still like it.)

Is there a Doombot head that says things like, "Oh, what nice children"? Because if not, 0/10.

Yeah, as a general rule, it isn't a good idea to compare TV with movies. There are different constrains. While in TV you can take your time to built up an arc, in movies you have to figure out where to put the emphasis.

I mean, would it have added to the story to see more of Carol's past? Maybe, though I still think that there is merit in being able to project your own experiences into it. Would it been great to know more about her relationship with her team mates? Yes, but that is not the story the movie wants to tell. I suspect, though, it is a story the sequel will tell.

I don't think anybody (in this thread, at least) is comparing Captain Marvel to She-Ra in a negative way—in either direction. Just a little "heh, funny they both got released at around the same time and have some similarities" thing.

Edited by Discar on Mar 18th 2019 at 7:45:12 AM

There is in both reprogrammed mookbots named Emily.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 18th 2019 at 8:04:33 AM

Oh my god, she did copy her Secret Wars: Runaways comic!

Yeah, that was my impression as well. It is just a funny coincidence. Yeah, this kind of sorry is not particularly original, but it is not terribly common either, so it is noticeable.

Back from the movie.

Quite enjoyed it. Talos is a great character.

I think its greatest problem is that it has a very solid space-faring war thing going on and a very solid quest for identity on Earth thing going on but doesn't quite manage to balance both, so they're both a little truncated by virtue of each other (for example, I feel like we should have had more on the Skrulls before The Reveal).

Still, very good. Captain herself is a great heroine. Hope to see more of her.

PS: The Stan Lee tributes were very touching.

Everyone talks about the title card, but I actually loved the moment with Brie smiling at him.

Apparently that was added in after his death.

Right in the feels.

Is that confirmed? I figured that this could be the case because it is kinda il of a random shot, and Stan wasn't on frame, but I wasn't sure.

If it's true, they did well. It's also kind of funny that he is learning the text for his very first cameo. Too bad they couldn't deage him too, that would have been the cherry on top.

I heard that all of Stan's cameos were filmed in advance and usually not along with the rest of the filming (which makes me hope for a cameo in Endgame), so him not appearing along with the other characters is not unusual (in fact I'd have to go back and check, but I'm sure there are at least some of his cameos where he's the only character appearing in the shot).

So they could have decided to add a shot of Carol smiling at him afterwards. Very sweet in any case.