My Little Pony - Generation 5

So That Alicorn (possible villain) at the end amirite? Many are speculating that it's corrupted Twilight or a fallen student in the same vain as Sunset Shimmer

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

A fallen alicorn would be an amazing idea.

Optimism is a duty.

If Twilight comes back I think I would like her more as a disillusioned and tired old mentor, something like Luke skywalker on The Last Jedi.

I doubt they'll have Twilight be in the show this early when she'd easily overshadow the cast. If Twilight's gonna make a physical appearance, it'll be later down the line.

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

its actually Starlight glimmer

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Just got around to watching Make Your Mark now.

Art's going to take some getting used to.

The beginning is very As You Know.

Ah, here comes the trouble in paradise. It does kind of stink that earth ponies got zip, zilch and nada when magic came back. If anything, being show that magic is objectively great would burn even more when it's not something you're going to get any part of.

Seriously, I really feel that Sunny's PR campaign is going to backfire specifically because trying to impress on the earth ponies how great and awesome magic is is probably going to just make them more morose about not getting to participate in it.

Hmm. Yeah, running a country's a full-time job. Doesn't leave a lot of time for personal pursuits unless you're the kind of ruler who spends all her time eating grapes, fiddling during urban conflagrations and picking small countries to invade.

Oh, so that's what that flickering was about. Magic's on da fritz... again.

... ooh, I'm going to jot down for later that something something plot device went wrong the first time around and earth pony magic didn't activate and that's the problem here.

"... you're bored!" Yeah, and you're projecting.

... hmm. "Posey"... color-wise she's not a whole lot like the older Posey, too saturated and purple, but the bows are there, so's the cutie mark... definitely intentional.

Oh, yeah, definitely earth pony magic coming back, no question. Seems like it's going for the "nature stuff" version over the "super strong" one.

Gonna be honest here, as someone who was never the biggest fan of the fandom's tendency to bend over backwards to interpret earth ponies as some kind of oppressed underclass, I'm actually really amused at how G5 is establishing them as the default wearers of the "racist suburbanite" hat.

And there's the magic back. Kind of anticlimactic.

My hoofness indeed.

Oh, I do not like that face. Tries to be cute and ends up way too human like.

(EDIT: Just caught on when looking through MYM's page that the dragon has wings from hatching. Hm.)

And an evil alicorn. Probably going to be relevant later.

Overall, this is definitely a show pilot more so than its own story.

Still not used to the art style.

Edited by Theriocephalus on Jun 1st 2022 at 2:58:13 PM

The special was pretty decent, in my opinion. While the downgrade in the art style was noticeable, it was also inevitable. But it was the story I really focused on. And there was a lot of fun to be had there. And it set things up nicely for the upcoming series.

Also, I've noticed that, despite the first issue being released last week, nobody's put up a page for the G5 comics series.

Speaking of, Sandbox.My Little Pony Generation 5 could still use some work.

Huh. Y'know, upon further inspection, that (evil?) Alicorn looks eerily similar to Radiant Hope from the comics.

Edit: Coincidence or a sign that Sombra might be the real big bad?

Edited by Afrovenator on Jun 2nd 2022 at 5:31:11 AM

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

I'm pretty sure those comics were rendered non-canon by the show making them incompatible with the main series.

Doesn't mean they won't borrow elements from it. Plus, wasn't Tirek's dad, King Vorak, mentioned in the finale by Discord?

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

How do you feel about the new voice cast?

My Little Pony: Make Your Mark:

• Series Continuity Error: Sparky has wings when he hatches, despite Friendship is Magic showing that dragons in this continuity are born without wings, and gain them later in life.

We've previously cut the sun and moon moving without magic as it was posable this inconsistency would be explained later. Any reason not to do the same for Sparky?

I've seen rationals such as:

• Dragons evolved between G4-5 like how dogs, rats, and snails now have wings.
• Sparky's a different breed/species of dragon then the ones seen in G4 that matures differently. ("The Dragons on Dazzle Island" book had winged dragon hatchlings. Even dismissing it as outdated canon there's still the precedent for being consistent with the level of inconsistency between works.)

Relating, how long do we give G5 to explain these inconsistencies with G4 before we can call them Continuity Errors? How long before adding Fanon Discontinuity over even many who like G5 pretending it's alternate continuity/timeline over the Happy Ending Override?

Yeah, at some point we're going to have to stop relying on the "it may be explained in the future" thing. Where to make the cutoff is going to have to be arbitrary by definition...

Hmm. Right now we've got a movie and special, with a series and another special coming up... how does the end of the first season seem like for a cutoff? Whatever's not explained by then can go under Series Continuity Error.

It's also worth noting that there's a limit to how much one can rely on Fanon to patch up continuity issues in canon. Theoretically, there's no limit to the convoluted explanations one can come up with to explain away plot holes or contradictory continuity, but that doesn't mean that they're not there. After the cutoff, whatever that may be, is reached, I don't think that we should consider Fanon explanations and patches when deciding what does or doesn't fit as an example.

Edited by Theriocephalus on Jun 5th 2022 at 1:17:43 PM

End of the first season is fine. After all, the movie and special are just setups. Nothing has really happened so far.

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

I suppose that makes sense.

Shouldn't it already be eligible for a Fanon Discontinuity entry based on that? I doubt the series proper would change anything there.

It's not currently under FD because My Little Pony: The Movie (2017) was also subject to this (due to assuming it was a Non-Serial Movie with no impact on the show and thus ignorable) but it completely died out once the immediate followup S8 incorporated it's happenings into the show such no fans pretend The Movie didn't happen regardless of their thoughts on it (such cleanup said to cut). There was also significant president for other contentious happenings in the series being accepted into fanon. (Twilight becoming an alicorn princess went from FD to tentatively accepted once it was followed up with S4 to wholly accepted by the S4 finale 1¼ years after the backlash.) It's not like the Star Wars prequels where there was a long enough period of FD before being largely accepted for it to be a meaningful part of it's historic reception.

It thus seemed only fair to give G5 the same period. I adding FD and Continuity Error if nothing changes by the end of Season 1 (the Winter Wishday special) as anything after that is longer than the aforementioned took to be accepted and thus a long enough period of FD to count and any addressing of the issues after the fact fixes.

But given the different circumstances and reasons behind the G5 FD, is there reason to add it sooner if not now?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Jun 5th 2022 at 4:20:22 AM

The deal with the 2017 movie is that before Season 8, there was no evidence against it being a Non-Serial Movie. Here, early press releases heavily emphasized G5 being a Distant Sequel to G4. I guess if the history between G4 and G5 is handled reasonably well (that is, in such a manner that doesn't make Twilight look like a total screwup), it might lessen the FD factor, but to me it feels relatively unlikely that it would sway many of the fans experiencing major nerd rage over having everything Twilight and friends fought for go right down the toilet. If you think it'd be best to wait and see, that's quite all right.

Tell Your Tale - The Game Is Ahoof

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

So Izzy's maker skills do in fact extend to actual engineering, then? Interesting...

I had been thinking that with the movement to get more females into the various STEM disciplines, Scootaloo (with her mechanical skills, which she could even have potentially leveraged to compensate for her Dream-Crushing Handicap) and Yona (with her aptitude for science that was referenced but never meaningfully explored) could have been nice symbols in that department - a major missed opportunity there. With Izzy, there is another chance.

Tell Your Tale - Dumpster Diving

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

Discord's G5 Design revealed. Not gonna lie, he actually looks intimidating. I sincerely hope Discord isn't a villain again.

Also, is it just me or does he kinda look like Joruus C'Baoth?

Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

Dang,he looks older

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How does a Reality Warper get old? :S

Flora is the most beautiful member of the Winx Club. :)

Well,he felt old so he became old

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