Brightburn - a superhero horror movie by James Gunn

The "overall production" would be the ones making the decision to use AI, though.

That is a clear, top-down choice.

So you don't actually blame the AI anymore than you blame Tron's special effects for not being better. They're just a tool, and picking the tools used to make art is a large part of an artist's conscious creative decision making, possibly the most important single choice.

So all the blame would lay at the H Collective for making such a decision. When you choose to go to the veterinarian instead of the hospital to fix your wounds, the vet's not at fault for not being better in treating humans.

...However, we're very far away from any news about being made about this movie, as mentioned that article is from September and the announcement H Collective made was very vague. We're probably three or four years out from Brightburn 2, and that's lots of time for things to change.

So all the blame would lay at the H Collective for making such a decision. When you choose to go to the veterinarian instead of the hospital to fix your wounds, the vet's not at fault for not being better in treating humans.

Didn't something like that happen in Terminator 3?

But yeah, I get your point and that's fair. Besides, the movie is still likely a while anyway like you said so things could potentially change.

Let's just hope this AI drama doesn't go too out of hand that it overshadows the sequel's contents in the thread and eventually gets the thread locked. Cough Sound of Freedom Cough.

Oh it will. People hate AI music covers on more than a few threads here. This I can actually see as a problem.

Sound of Freedom got locked because of discussion about AI? I thought the controversy over that film was... something else honestly.

No, I meant that a thread can get locked when the controversial background info overshadows any discussion about the film itself. Sound of Freedom allegedly having Qanon beliefs (which btw I watched the film it had none of those) and the real Tim Ballard's dodgy history overshadowed any discussion about the actual movie or its plot, which caused the thread to get locked.

I hope the same does not happen here.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 30th 2023 at 11:42:49 PM

Returning to the topic, maybe in the sequel, they will manage to beat Brightburn

Doubt it. The sequel if anything seems to be about Brightburn rising to power alongside other evil supers.

An evil Justice League-ening.

I kind of dig it. Superhero genre needs some shake-up. The last time we got anything like that was... well Invincible and The Boys, but prior to that was Kick-Ass.

"What if ___ was EVIL" is... not a shake-up. That's pretty much as generic a spin on it as you can get short of just playing it all totally straight.

An evil league forming is a shake-up. We have never had an evil league of people as the focal point of a live-action superhero flick before.

At this point, playing an Ideal Hero totally straight would be a shake-up for DC.

Edited by Eagal on Jan 2nd 2024 at 8:15:44 AM

Shit, I've already pointed out that DC itself already did this. Twice if you count Injustice.

That's why I said this movie reeks of unoriginality.

Edited by M84 on Jan 3rd 2024 at 12:15:53 AM

We were discussing earlier in 1 of the DC threads here that there have been too many evil Superman expies (so many you could almost fill a Top 10 Watchmojo List) that it stopped being original or groundbreaking a long time ago. And those aren't even counting the multiple versions of the Crime Syndicate and Squadron Supreme not to mention the Injustice Universe (w/c already had an animated movie) and the Justice Lords. Then there's how DC's Metal Saga beat the evil Batman horse to death in record time.

Watch Twitter go nuts when the sequel turns out to be Evil Dead 2 meets The Suicide Squad.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 5th 2024 at 7:45:26 PM

Yeah, I think that's why Brightburn just kinda... fell off most people's radar after a bit. I remember people who were already sick of superhero films crowing how this would skewer and deconstruct them, and then it came out — and it was a bog-standard "evil Superman" story that didn't really do either of those things. It was a decent slasher movie, but its only message was "If Superman was bad, that would be bad."

Plus, it's heavily implied his spaceship brainwashed him into becoming evil, which is the least interesting motivation possible.

Edited by Dracoblade on Jan 5th 2024 at 9:53:55 AM

Not to mention. That this story has been done better a bunch of times. So it would make people more critical of a take that's just okay.

They're going to hilariously beat themselves up in the style of the Three Stooges?

The funniest thing is that Superman is designed in part to handle the concept that someone as powerful as him can be good.

Even Omni Man and Homelander handle the concept of Nature Versus Nurture.

Edited by Luisdalas on Jan 5th 2024 at 3:02:38 AM

(x4) Honestly, if you want my interpretation of Brandon it's that he was always a sociopath and that the only thing holding him back was his Good Parents. Once he found the ship it gave him a vague message that his own sadistic and murderous interpreted as finally giving him a good excuse to act as monstrous he does in the film's latter half.

The ship did not brainwash him. Brandon did this all out of his own volition once he realized he could probably justify it via an "order from above".

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 8th 2024 at 4:11:13 AM

Kinda, Omniman for what i get is more of "why would anyone send a super to earth?" with the reasoning being "yeah, probably to conquered". While homelander(tv show at least) is more about old superman with also have "And the american way" atach to it.

In this case is more "what happen if super just chose the power over their family"

And Omni-Man later in the comic basically becomes a deconstruction of "evil Supermen".

Omni-Man and Homelander were both the products of their environment. Omni-Man was born and raised in an imperialist supremacist society based on social darwinist bullshit. Homelander was born and raised as a corporation's product and advertisement.