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Deadlock Clock: Nov 10th 2018 at 11:59:00 PM
lalalei2001 from At my computer
Nov 7th 2018 at 4:30:22 PM

Overshadowed by Controversy has several examples and entire sections, particularly under the Fan Works, Webcomics, and Web Original folders, that seem very private and not 'big' enough for the scope of the trope. Some examples of this are a single deviantart user who made a webcomic, or fanfic authors who did this or that regardless of how 'big' their work was. I'm concerned that by troping it that way, especially for larger fandom works, we'd draw unwanted attention to both the works and this site for chronicling every fandom disaster under a microscope. (A similar thing happened with the Wrestling and Sports folders.)

The media folders, such as Anime or Western Animation, could also use a look, as some entries deal with shows while others actors, fans, or creators. Additionally, some of the entries are not controversial anymore or are not known enough to overshadow the show completely, and still others seem closer to Never Live It Down. Some examples even point out that the controversy was debunked or died down eventually, which doesn't seem to fit this trope, as well as examples saying things like "time will tell if [x] can recover."

I propose a wait period before adding new examples, similar to the Broken Base and Base-Breaking Character consensus.

What do you guys think?

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 7th 2018 at 7:41:20 AM

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SeptimusHeap Token Good Teammate from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 7th 2018 at 10:41:13 PM

I think this OP needs a bit of work. The solution proposed is at odds with the problems described, and setting a metric for "controversial enough" sounds like a big waste of time. Imma open but set a clock on this.

lalalei2001 from At my computer
Nov 7th 2018 at 10:43:17 PM

Anyone have other ideas/input? I had previously asked about it on the Real Life cleanup thread but was told the issue was with the trope itself. Maybe a cleanup thread would be better?

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 7th 2018 at 1:45:41 PM

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Blapper of Water
Nov 8th 2018 at 11:50:51 AM

Well, the self-contradicting examples definitely need to be cleaned up, and Examples Are Not Recent seems to cover cutting the "time will tell" entries.

The issue of scope seems to be a "TRS-level" problem, but unless there's a wick check demonstrating these other issues are on the rest of the wiki, I think a simple clean-up could cover them, right?

Specifically, the controversy is supposed to overshadow the work, so if it doesn't do that it shouldn't count as a valid example. The scope of the fanbase or work's popularity, however, seems like a waste of time defining (so I agree with Septimus there).

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lalalei2001 from At my computer
Nov 8th 2018 at 2:24:12 PM

Makes sense. I'll try a cleanup thread in short-term projects. Mods, feel free to lock!

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Nov 8th 2018 at 2:29:48 PM

I added two examples to the Fan-Works section because they are relatively well-known amongst the respective fandoms. But that then brings to issue what counts as well-known enough or not.

Nov 8th 2018 at 4:24:02 PM

If I were you, I'd rather add a strict set of criteria for this trope and set up a Long Term Projects thread to police examples.

lalalei2001 from At my computer
Nov 8th 2018 at 8:46:28 PM

[up] What sort of criteria do you have in mind?

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Blapper of Water
Nov 9th 2018 at 3:17:10 PM

Do we really need a policing thread? Why shouldn't it just be a clean-up thread?

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Someoneman Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Nov 11th 2018 at 7:50:34 AM

I agree that a wait period would be good. I remember when BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle announced its Downloadable Content plans, there were massive amounts of Internet Backdraft and many fans thought the game would never recover from it. I also added the game as an example of this, but by the time the game came out, most people stopped caring about it, so I think I should remove it.


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