Politics in Media - The Good, the Bad, and the Preachy

Spain is still a underrated historical villain tho. The fucked upness of the spanish racial casta system needs to be mentioned more. When you have Americans acting as if it was tolerant rather than a product of pragmatism...

Also, is weird saying this after saying that Spain is a villain. But regarding your commentary on Criollos in the racism thread, they ASBOLUTELY are/were part of the "core" Peruvian demographics.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jun 21st 2019 at 11:33:37 AM

Honestly, my final take on the Spanish Empire is that it was bizarre in the English term of the word.

I have read differing takes on the Viceroyalty period that either speak positively or negatively about the period, with some contradictions thrown in for good measure.

Anyway, in general the Early Modern Period is one of the least featured times in history, most of the time when speaking of the Modern Period we pick up during the eighteenth century.

Bizarro en el sentido anglosajon de la palabra.

Latin America can show cultural hegemony via memes. We have the potential to be the global exporters of shitposting.

I'm serious.

I wonder if their spectacular fall from great power status might have contributed to that.

If that can reassure you, Spain was the designated villain in almost all 70's french comics. If the action took place between 1500-1800, there would always be a sly mutineer named Morales or a cruelly foppish noble named Mendoza. That's because France replaced Spain as the dominant power sometimes after the Thirty Years war, wich meant we could divert our stock english/german villains. For understandable reasons, the natives in those stories were sympathetic, but their plights were not really extended upon. France was a colonial power too, after all.

Ah, those Mendoza. Crazy people.

Here's the most modern example : http://www.decape.askell.com/Persos/Mendoza.php

Wait, at what point did The Knights Hospitalier start to get to own private wealth?

A very confusing institution in the modern day.

"The Third Rome is a term applicable to Tsarist Russia and arguably Spain after the fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks due to dynastic and title rights."

Tsarist Russia claiming to be the Third Rome because one Grand Prince of Moscow married a Byzantine princess is kind of an example of completing missing the point. What made the Second Rome — Byzantium — the follow-up to Rome wasn't dynastic descent, but institutional continuity. Hardly any of the Emperors were related to one another. You could make an argument to the Orthodox churches or the Roman Catholic Church, since they first emerged by co-opting the role of the pontificate of the imperial cult, but claiming to be the next Rome, a society that placed very little value on dynastic descent, because of intermarriage sounds like a fundamental misunderstanding of what Rome was.

I remember how Spain was used in ELIZABETH THE GOLDEN AGE.

The problem being that you can't exactly use Queen Elizabeth as an exemplar of religious freedom given she murdered far more people than her sister for Catholicism.

The only religious freedom that matters is that of the one writing the narrative.

@Kevan: Here in Peru, we had a Leftist candidate named Mendonza. She certainly was...curious.

I'm still wondering if she can make it for the next elections, she do have..views in International affairs×, but the good thing of being Irrelevant is that it don't matters.

×= Apologia for leftists authoritarians. Typical. Our Right isn't better.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jun 21st 2019 at 3:56:08 AM

Both sisters executed somewhere between 400-600 people. Henry VIII, meanwhile, executed a staggering 37,000 people.

Yes, Henry VIII is an underrated monster.

What sticks with me is that he pardoned his groom for rape and murder.

Because he didn't want to replace the guy.

(Notably, Culpepper was the guy accused of sleeping with his wife)

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 21st 2019 at 7:19:10 AM

Culpepper wasn't pardoned, his sentence was reduced from being drawn and quartered to being beheaded.

Not for the rape and murder.

For sleeping with Katherine Howard.

I am thinking in the new wave of non-white superheroes, but I've noticing that due to general trends, most of them are pretty young.

Older non-white superheroes?

Depends on what you count as older, I guess. Like, would the 1980ies count or only about the 1970/60ies?

I mean as In-Universe age. Late twenties to Thirty years.

Characters like Steel or Black Lightning, old enought to be parents.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jun 22nd 2019 at 12:54:48 PM

There's like Storm from the X-Men, too.

I think Black Panther would qualify. Aa does John Stewart of the Green Lanterns.

I like Black Lightning's series. It makes me happy.

Are there any rural superheroes? Like, with stories usually taking place in open fields and dealing with rural outlawry?

I mean, Supes was raised on a farm, but I can't think of any superhero stories that take place primarily in rural areas.

To be fair, I'd argue that's due in part to some other common tropes in the genre. For example, a city is the perfect 'unit' for a superhero's "jurisdiction". Also, large urban areas are stereotypically crime-ridden and therefore a great place to put a superhero (IE, Gotham). Actually, this is why a lot of superheroes from Marvel take place around New York-it was once a famously crime-ridden town which meant a superhero could find a lot of work there, though IIRC the crime rate has fallen dramatically recently.

When's the last time Spidey/Batsy/etc. caught a normal larceny or robbery?

Edited by Oruka on Jun 22nd 2019 at 11:34:35 AM

The mechanics of a superhero don't tend to function as well in rural areas. In a city of millions it is more plausible for a superhero/villain to maintain his secret identity, less so when you have a populace numbering in the low end of the hundreds. High-tech shenanigans are also harder to come by in rural areas, limiting the plot pool.

There are superhero adjacent narratives in rural settings, though. A good deal of Rebirth Superman had him tangling with threats in a small rural town. Ghost Rider, by virtue of his Road Movie esque nature, is often driving about in the highway away from main cities and the like, particularly in the Danny Ketch days. Hellboy is almost always doing his job in rural settings either far from or in the outskirts of civilization (one of the most noticeable changes in the movie is that he operates in New York).

Superhero westerns are also invariably in smaller rural towns. See Carter Slade, the Phantom Rider.

There's also apparently a independent superhero comic called Black Hammer which is specifically built on the premise of superheroes in a rural context.