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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Aug 2nd 2018 at 3:39:39 PM

Unresolved Cliffhanger seems redundant with Cliffhanger Cop Out, and the page has no links or examples and would never have been approved for launch in it's current state. It was made back in 2013, has brough in 144 people and has only 4 wick.

It's so poor as is I see no reason not to just cut. Any other ideas?

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#3: Aug 3rd 2018 at 11:39:38 AM

How many calls for cutting before we can do so? Or should we wait until a mod calls for it?

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#4: Aug 3rd 2018 at 12:43:43 PM

'Unresolved' and 'copout' IMO are two very different things though. And the example list of 'copout' is absolutely all over the place from something happening out of left field to hand waving to never going back to it to the show getting canned.

Honestly we should split the examples to where they go

  • Unresolved Cliff Hanger: never gets touched on again, it might as well never had happened. X Files did this a lot.
  • Cliffhanger Cop Out: Handwaved cliffhanger or an excuse plot is created to settle the cliffhanger, such as making it All Just a Dream or changing the events from the cliffhanger episode to the resolution such as adding a character to a scene. Lots of Plotholes are created with this one.

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#5: Aug 3rd 2018 at 1:21:10 PM

Maybe make it a redirect?

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#6: Aug 3rd 2018 at 1:55:07 PM

Even if we wanted to keep the idea, as it is the page is so bad we would probably be better off just going back to TLP.

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#8: Aug 4th 2018 at 9:22:10 AM

The name sounds like it could also apply to a series that was Cut Short on a cliffhanger.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#9: Aug 4th 2018 at 11:25:57 AM

I see how it might be different form Cliffhanger Cop Out, but as written...

No, written is to strong a word for it in it's current state. Cut or back to TLP.

Is taking it back to TLP any different than cutting it than pasting the content into a new TLP draft?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Aug 4th 2018 at 11:25:40 AM

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#10: Sep 3rd 2018 at 10:37:11 PM

Clock is set.

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#12: Oct 2nd 2018 at 10:08:11 AM

I say return to TLP or cut.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#13: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:40:10 AM

Not seeing a meaningful difference to Cliffhanger Copout. It could become a fourth bullet on that page and be done.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#15: Dec 15th 2018 at 6:06:16 PM

Bump for crowner activity

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#16: Dec 16th 2018 at 7:04:51 AM

I was under the impression that Unresolved Cliffhanger was for when a show gets cancelled before the resolution can be aired, and Cliffhanger Copout was for cliffhangers that do get resolved, but in an unsatisfying way.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#17: Dec 16th 2018 at 7:31:03 AM

How did you get that impression?

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#18: Dec 16th 2018 at 7:36:15 AM

Nevermind, I got confused with Left Hanging.

I agree that just skipping the resolution of the cliffhanger and moving on should just be a bullet point on Cliffhanger Copout.

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#19: Jan 13th 2019 at 4:35:59 PM

But wait, how is Left Hanging any different from the other two?

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#20: Apr 21st 2019 at 6:04:52 PM

I'm in favor of cutting Unresolved Cliffhanger as a duplicate to Left Hanging.

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#21: Apr 21st 2019 at 8:15:24 PM

I'm not voting in this thread's crowner, but isn't The Resolution Will Not Be Televised similar to this as well?

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#22: Jun 6th 2019 at 9:16:57 AM

Is it safe to call yet?

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#23: Jun 28th 2019 at 10:10:32 AM

Option 1 (Expand the description of Cliffhanger Copout to include the idea of cliffhangers that are never mentioned again and cut Unresolved Cliffhanger) has the most votes in favor of it. Since the crowner's been up since last October, is it safe to call, or does it need more votes? I recall seeing that cut options require more votes, but I think this would be more of a merge since it involves moving examples to Cliffhanger Copout.

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#24: Jun 28th 2019 at 10:43:44 AM

Calling for the first option.

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#25: Jun 28th 2019 at 11:08:41 AM

Wicks migrated, page cutlisted, and notice posted on the discussion page.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I also merged the descriptions. Forgot to mention that, sorry.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 28th 2019 at 3:41:05 AM

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What to do with Unresolved Cliffhanger? See TRS discussion here.

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