Joker (2019)

Getting back to how the film went over at Toronto I will say that I'm extremely hyped for Joaquin Phoenix's performance. As I mentioned before, the guy's intimidating with his mere presence. The reviews I've read are also encouraging, at the very least this is looking to be an extremely well made movie.

I like a more terrifying Joker that doesn't do OP bullshit, so I'm definitely going to love Joaquin Phoenix's take.

If I don't squirm at least once watching this I can label this film a failure, frankly.

If nothing else I do expect Phoenix to be great. He's always been a terrific actor.

A closer look at the TV ads for the movie got me to notice a neat little touch:

The WB logo they use is the one from the 1970s!◊

It actually works in context since the movie is set in the 70's, if I'm not mistaken.

I loved it when Paramount used its 60's logo for Ouija: Origin of Evil, and I love it here.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Sep 15th 2019 at 9:13:32 AM

The Nice Guys used that 70s WB logo as well.

Todd Phillips clarifies comments about this film not being based on the comics at all.

Also, the original runtime was supposed to be 2 hours and 35 minutes, the movie was made specifically to leave the audiences speechless and has an Easter Egg referencing Batman: The Animated Series.

That's how I always interpreted his comment, actually.

And any movie that recognizes the masterpiece that is Batman: TAS deserves at least a look.

I've watched so far only two episodes ("On Leather Wings" and "Christmas with the Joker") and the first movie (Batman: Mask of the Phantasm). So, don't scold me if I couldn't watch it in entirety and if I don't consider it a masterpiece (yet), because I've heard that it has flaws, but I'll not discuss what flaws I've heard it has here (but admit it, it does have). Because if I will watch it, I would prefer to watch the entire DC Animated Universe from start to finish (in order of release). However, if I will watch it in entirety, there's a very high probability that I will consider Batman: The Animated Series a masterpiece.

Interesting note: Joker (2019) is the first R-rated live-action DC movie since Watchmen. Or am I wrong.^note Although the Ultimate Cut of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was rated R.

I would like to watch this movie.

Just watch Heart of Ice.

It's a timeless classic.

Hell, if anything, it's even more relevant today than back when it was released.

Actually, thinking about it, Mr Freeze would be a pretty good pick for a Joker style movie, if it turns out to be more than a one-off thing.

Thanks for the suggestion!

I wonder how this film will turn out... good thing that I didn't saw much promos and trailers and reviews.

Edited by Andrei_Bondoc on Sep 16th 2019 at 11:58:41 AM

My shortlist for must see BTAS episodes:

• Heart of Ice
• Two Face
• Perchance to Dream
• The Man Who Killed Batman
• Harley’s Holiday

There’s loads of other great ones (plus the movies: Mask of the Phantasm is a masterpiece, World’s Finest - though that’s technically a Superman film - is still one of the two’s best non-comic team ups and Subzero is a better conclusion for Mr. Freeze than most of what came after besides Arkhamverse Freeze’s conclusion, maybe even Batman Beyond’s Freeze ending), and not counting The New Batman Adventures (though the only one I’d say is essential from that is Mad Love). But those are the essentials.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 16th 2019 at 2:38:45 AM

Batman: TAS is very episodic, so you don't need to watch all of it.

The rest of the DCAU, on the other hand, is pretty interconnected.

If its DCAU Batman we're praising at the moment, this right here is the cherry on top:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go get something out of my eyes.

Don't forget this one:

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 16th 2019 at 8:21:07 AM

@Andrei_Bondoc I'd recommend Joker's Favor, too.

God, yes. One of the better Joker stories out there - especially great in how it manages to work how cruel and disdainful of people Joker is without feeling the need to have him murder people with every breath.

Give Batman Beyond and its accompanying movie Return of the Joker a look as well.

Almost Got 'im and Lock-Up are good too.

Now Beyond is a good example of having the Joker go too far because its the grand finale to the character so he can absolutely cross the moral event horizon from laughably evil to pants shttingly terrifying.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 16th 2019 at 6:17:05 AM

I like Mad Love because it was one of the first portrayals of abusive relationships in animation that I can think of. Also it has some really iconic moments like Batman actually laughing for once and making the Joker lose his temper by taunting him.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Sep 18th 2019 at 9:27:05 AM

@Known Unknown I particularly like the ending, which reveals something interesting about the Joker to me.

It shows what his actual biggest fear is: dying unceremoniously. Being killed by Batman or in some big climactic battle would be just fine for him, but dying to some random nobody? Terrifying

Actually, one random gripe I'm having, the more I think about it, is the line "When you bring me out, can you introduce me as Joker?"

Why not as "The Joker"?

My guess? To make up for people calling Batman "the Batman" before.