We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
- Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
- Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
- Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.
Frequently Reported Issues
This isn't everything, just the most common problems.Status Values
- Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
- Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
- Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
- No sorting options.
- Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
- Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
- Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
- Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
- ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
- The Cut List does not work.
- Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
- Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
- Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
- Additional cutlist issues noted here
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- Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
- Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
- Namespace index is broken. [Logged]
- Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
- Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
- Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
- HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
- Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
- Redirects are broken. [Patched]
- This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
- Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
- Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
- Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
- The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
- Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
- In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
- Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
- In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
- The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]
- [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
- Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
- Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
- "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
- "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
- "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
- Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
- Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]
- Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
- Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
- Crowners are broken. [Logged]
- Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]
Previously compiled lists of problems:
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Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM
Just checked and yep, April 2012 is when i supposedly joined even though I have been here since the Wild West days of the site.
Also don't know if it's been said before, but sub-bullet paragraphs look like they run on and blend into each other, when it didn't look like they did that before. I don't exactly remember what it looked like before, but I think stuff after the first line had the same level of indentation as the first line, and there might have been more space in between sub-bullets. Right now, that stuff does not look pleasing to read compared to before.
Edited by CathariSarad on Jun 26th 2018 at 5:08:18 AM
Eagal that seems to be when you try to post more than once without leaving the thread, possibly to deter spamming
Yinyang 107: see my post here
TropeYoshi, I'm also not having that issue, are you on a browser where things commonly go above the page? Because that is the driving force of the bugs you've reported.
I think the last major purge happened in April 2012, perhaps all accounts have accidentally been set to that...
Edited by lakingsif on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:07:21 AM
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Someone With a Computer
I should also mention that, when I tried to edit Super Smash Bros' And The Fandom Rejoiced page, I tried to check the edit page to see how it worked now. The edit page was way too big all of a sudden, and I checked the preview button to see if it worked. It didn't. So I cancelled my edit because I didn't wanna waste my time, and the page was locked that way too! So what, any attempt to edit the page is gonna be met with an automatic lock even if you do nothing?
I'm having a hard time finding the watchlist for pages I watched.
"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
@Drewski: Change to old version, please.
My join date is also April 2012......I don't know when I joined, but this is an extremely minor thing, compared to all the other crap that's going on here.
Edited by catmuto on Jun 26th 2018 at 12:07:57 PM
Planeswalker
Also getting the April 4th glitch.
Oissu!
Psychic Mechanical Implement
(I'm using Internet Explorer, if that's the problem.)
(Edit: Yeah, it works fine on my phone.)
Edited by TropeYoshi on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:08:59 AM
Same. I have the April 24 2012 glitch as well. I joined just this year.
Amateur Veteran
Honestly, the thing that gets me is that I cannot think of one thing genuinely improved by this update — a risk or problem that's gone away or a feature that now works better. All the changes have either been trivial and unimpactful or objectively negative: the page formats look terrible, the editing is unmanageable — in my case, when I hit "save" the site just reloads the editing window with all my edits undone — and there's so many bugs I could swear I'm in a beehive.
I honestly cannot see how this update benefits the site. Could whoever is in charge of this please revert the changes and retry this when the bugs are worked out and the deleterious features have been addressed?
Not Sherlock Holmes
Broken images, 2012, private chat....
“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
Another for April 4th 2012 when I KNOW my account is newer than that (I lost the password for my old one).
Perpetually Confused
I'd add that in feature to improve, the light grey used for people's location and relationship status is so pale it's really hard to read without straining or switching to nightvision mode (The grey is so pale it renders better on dark grey, yes.) I hate to imagine how bad it is for any user with vision problems. That grey is also used a bunch of other places... and it shouldn't be.
I don't hate the new update (or rather, I wouldn't hate it if it worked properly), but there's a lot to improve. As mentioned before, the speech bubble forum is kinda lame, the forums in general feel like there's a lot of wasted space because of it. Quotemarks no longer being a box is also a downgrade as one can't italicize in them, and they are in the same nigh-unreadable pale grey you guys picked.
Oh, also the Open/Close folder option is too damn small.
Like, I do think this update can be made to work (I like the headers and folder styles) but there's questionable design decisions here along with the numerous outlined bugs.
Oh, another bug: sometimes I add a post, it save, and it brings me back to the version of the thread before I posted, without my post on it. I need to reload the thread (either by going back and re-selecting it) or refreshing for the thread to show my post.
Edited by Ghilz on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:12:23 AM
I tried to Follow pages (including this forum) and it hasn't saved any of them.
Also, the "have folders Open" option doesn't appear to be working.
And none of the pages I have followed say they have been edited even though I checked the History they clearly have been.
What a mess...
Edited by EmeraldSky on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:21:36 AM
How sweet it is
I have relayed this to the other staff in our private chat area, but I'll post it here so normal users will know.
The page where cut requests are processed does not work. I tried to process some cuts after the update, only for it to do nothing when I confirm the action. Not only is the item still listed, the page also remains.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
I...didn't join...April 4th 2012....why is it saying that I did?
The open/close folder is also barely noticeable in general. And if you're looking at a forum with a crowner hooked, the crowner has lost its borders so is just a piece of grey text to expand... negative functionality.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Perpetually Confused
Coz it's saying that for everyone.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
I'm logged in on my desktop instead of my tablet like usual, because the login wasn't working on the latter, as others have reported. (The browsers in question are Chrome and Safari respectively; the latter matches the previous report of this issue.) And like some others have also noted, I was logged in as some random other troper for no reason at one point.
Also, where's the save button for profile changes? And my avatar won't show up in my profile (also already reported).
But hey, the 1.8 site version's only been up for less than a day, it'll naturally be full of glitches that'll be fixed eventually.
At least they made some stuff better - for example, the history button is no longer pushed away on work pages by the review button, and is no longer invisible unless you hover over it...
Edited by Lymantria on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:37:32 AM
Join the Five-Man Band cleanup project!
Someone With a Computer
It also says I joined April 4th, 2012. Just like a lot of people. I didn't even know TV Tropes was a thing, back then.
The Vagrant
Also, just in case... but could you, I dunno, log out everyone? With the login issue, I'm paranoid that someone could access my account and start making unwanted and possibly disastrous changes.
Creator of the Avatar Arena and its Discord server.
Divine Burden
Just reporting that I also have the April thing.
Edited by Bolded1 on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:15:54 AM
Fallout 2? More like Fallout 2 bad.
I also have the April 4th 2012 issue even though I joined in 2016, also it's not showing when the pages were first made or last edited.
Not Sherlock Holmes
I'm starting to get used to the blue, but it still looks like crap.
@Syme Synth: Septimus Heap fixed the login issue.
Edited by TalesofUnder on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:17:27 AM
“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
Mine's saying I joined on that date too, when I joined either August 28th or 29th, 2017 (Can't recall which).
And as a whole I greatly prefer the previous version of the site. It would be very, very, very nice to have the option to go back to it.
Edited by CrystalMemoria on Jun 26th 2018 at 5:05:49 AM