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We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

  • Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
  • Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
  • Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.

Frequently Reported Issues

This isn't everything, just the most common problems.

Status Values 

    General Site Issues 
  • Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
  • Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
  • Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
    • No sorting options.
    • Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
    • Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
    • Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
  • Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
    • ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
  • The Cut List does not work.
    • Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
    • Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
    • Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
    • Additional cutlist issues noted here.
  • Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
  • Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
  • Namespace index is broken. [Logged]

    Wiki Issues 
  • Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
    • Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
  • Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
    • HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
  • Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
  • Redirects are broken. [Patched]
    • This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
  • Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
  • Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
    • Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
  • The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
  • Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
  • In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
    • Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
    • In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
  • The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]

    Forum Issues 
  • [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
  • Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
  • Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
  • "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
  • "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
  • "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
  • Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
  • Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]

    Miscellaneous 
  • Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
  • Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
  • Crowners are broken. [Logged]
  • Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]

Previously compiled lists of problems: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2676: Jul 13th 2018 at 11:06:30 AM

#2671: That's the unfollow button and the text displacement is a known issue that is on the list to fix.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
urutapu Since: Jan, 2001
#2677: Jul 13th 2018 at 11:54:35 AM

"Tropes Illustrated" on the homepage doesn't work properly. The image and trope name will change if I click to go back to previous comics, but the trope link URL and description are always for Super-Soldier.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
HeraldAlberich from Ohio (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2679: Jul 13th 2018 at 12:17:41 PM

On that subject, it's a minor display problem that when a YMMV or Trivia trope is the first link, the icon doesn't cover up or replace the bullet, but appears under it. See, for example, this section of Timothy Zahn. (Firefox on OS X.)

Edit: But it looks fine in Safari on iOS.

Now that I'm at work, I can also report that it looks normal in Chrome on Windows 7 and Windows 10. It's either a Firefox or an OS X issue.

Edited by HeraldAlberich on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:20:25 PM

Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#2680: Jul 13th 2018 at 12:42:14 PM

Not sure whether I should point this out here or in the Namespace Configuration thread, but apparently the namespace configurator is moderator only. However, the first post said it would be available to anyone, it's just that only moderators could edit it. To quote: "There will be a php page where anyone can view the list and the settings for each namespace, and mods can edit them." It doesn't seem like it's viewable to the public, and if it is, can a link be provided to it? And if plans were changed and it won't be available to the public, can the first post in that thread be changed too?

Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 13th 2018 at 9:48:29 PM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2681: Jul 13th 2018 at 12:43:31 PM

We just posted some fixes to the Cut List:

  • Cut reasons will now show up.
  • Formatting has been corrected on showcuts.php.

Still at issue:

  • The modal dialog after adding a page to the cutlist persists in the Location field, causing it to display again if you refresh the page.
  • showcuts.php still doesn't show cut reasons.
  • The "This page was cut" page doesn't display cut reasons when viewed after an article has been cut.
  • (Old issue) Clicking on the title portion of the article name in the cutlist takes you to the Main namespace instead of the correct one.
  • (Design question) There appears to be no way to "un-challenge" a cut request.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2682: Jul 13th 2018 at 12:46:45 PM

[up][up] Good question; I'll bring it up. The original design intent was to have a publicly visible namespace config page as well as a version that only mods can use, but I don't know what happened to it. Also, there are still some issues with the config page that we're working on... most importantly that the locking system doesn't work.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:46:43 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Disades Since: Jan, 2010
#2683: Jul 13th 2018 at 3:18:41 PM

Is there any way to get the grey background when using night-vision back? This high-contrast 1990's look is hard on my eyes.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
MegaMarioMan "Yo Smithy!" from Jowai Resort, Pokitaru Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
"Yo Smithy!"
#2685: Jul 13th 2018 at 4:09:54 PM

Nice text wrapping.

"Come on! Let's get this show on the road."
IchigoMontoya (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#2686: Jul 13th 2018 at 4:29:03 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2687: Jul 13th 2018 at 4:47:05 PM

I don't see any problems. Is this only on mobile? The update should have had nothing to do with the presentation of content. Also, I'm going to civil-thump you in a minute. In fact, yeah, civil thump delivered. Please link to the topic you're having issues with.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 7:47:08 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
IchigoMontoya (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#2688: Jul 13th 2018 at 4:59:46 PM

Apologies for my rudeness, I shouldn't have gotten short with you like that. Lemme see if I can't find a link to the issue I'm having.

Update: Behold. Only two posts on this page, yet there's already another page after it. Also, when I try going back to the page before it, it just takes me back to the thread's current page.

Edited by IchigoMontoya on Jul 13th 2018 at 5:05:36 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2689: Jul 13th 2018 at 5:08:04 PM

Yes, I see it. Same on some other topics. It looks as if the update may have messed up the post indexing. I'll get the devs to look at it as soon as I can.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
IchigoMontoya (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#2690: Jul 13th 2018 at 5:12:45 PM

Okay, thanks, man. And again, sorry for getting short with you, Fighteer. Keep up the good work, you hear me?

Edited by IchigoMontoya on Jul 13th 2018 at 5:42:07 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2691: Jul 13th 2018 at 5:14:16 PM

Doing our best.

~Mega Mario Man: It's helpful if you link to the article you're having trouble with, since that screenshot doesn't say.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 8:16:32 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
MegaMarioMan "Yo Smithy!" from Jowai Resort, Pokitaru Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
"Yo Smithy!"
#2692: Jul 13th 2018 at 5:16:15 PM

ScrappyMechanic.Super Mario Bros

Only place I've seen it so far.

"Come on! Let's get this show on the road."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2693: Jul 13th 2018 at 5:25:02 PM

Okay, I see that problem, it shows up when I turn off wide load. The wrapping of external links is documented and on the list to fix.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 8:26:37 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2694: Jul 13th 2018 at 7:41:02 PM

Repost from page 105, as I've seen no mention of this:

The episodes indexed in DarthWiki.The Punishers Song Of Evangelion And I Must Scream are not showing the index in their relatedsearch-es. For example:

This doesn't seem to be a new bug, actually, having been visible 3 years ago or so.

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2695: Jul 13th 2018 at 7:58:01 PM

Yeah, we'll look at indexing issues later on in the queue.

We've figured out the post numbering problem. Seems that a side-effect of reindexing the forum threads to fix the duplicate post numbers is that the post count no longer matches the page count. We'll fix the broken threads with a script. I'm not sure when that'll happen, but it should be soon.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
defunctzombie Since: Feb, 2010
#2696: Jul 13th 2018 at 8:06:02 PM

Regarding night vision blue text vs green text, I personally prefer the green. But either is manageable I guess.

What really strains the eyes is the previously visited link text, which is navy blue. I can barely make it out against the dark background. I have it set to purple in the browser options but I guess that doesn't matter huh?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2697: Jul 13th 2018 at 8:41:22 PM

[up] Night vision adjustments are high on the priority list right now.

[up][up] Self-reply: the reindexing of the super-long forum threads is in progress and should be done shortly, if it hasn't already. Let us know if there are any more threads whose pagination is screwed up.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DipperPines Pine Tree from Piedmont, California Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Pine Tree
#2698: Jul 13th 2018 at 10:43:17 PM

This thread's indexing got messed up from my post... my post is currently sharing the same comment ID as the post above mine. A couple of posts happened on July 13.

[down]This is related, but my last edit lists as "AM", but it's actually "PM" when I edited this post.

Edited by DipperPines on Jul 13th 2018 at 11:24:11 AM

"Stay curious, stay weird, stay kind and don't let anyone ever tell you you aren't smart or brave or worthy enough."—The Author
nman Since: Mar, 2010
#2699: Jul 13th 2018 at 11:13:16 PM

I don't see it listed in the compiled list of bugs up top, so forgive me if it's already been addressed, but the "last edited by" on someone's post seems to be using the editor's own local time zone instead of my time zone.

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#2700: Jul 13th 2018 at 11:40:24 PM

Before the update the headings made with the !! markup would cut off when they came up against a picture, now the heading it pushed down below the picture creating a big pointless blank space if the picture is longer then the description, for a random example see the Carice Van Houten or the On Your Mark page

It causes problems with the Star Scraper page which was given a long picture due to it's subject matter

Edited by jormis29 on Jul 14th 2018 at 7:11:39 PM


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