Kingdom Hearts III Spoiler Thread

Or it only appears that way

I mean whats more logical sense

The Keys require a fight to the death/ heavy struggle 'Three keys appear right after killing Ansem Xemnas and YX

or

The Keys just require you attacking someone...

Or they require 13 people fighting 7.

Or none of this makes sense.

Edited by unnoun on Feb 12th 2019 at 9:33:25 AM

Yeah, he had a purpose in doing what he did; he wanted Sora attacking him with no plan, rather than his team working out how to contain him without fighting him and making the final key.

It’s basically the same purpose for which he sicced Vanitas on Aqua and taunted Terra.

Huh, I heard someone say that Nomura sucks at writing a story, but is great with themes and motifs. I think I can see what they mean, they are good at tying up things together even if details are silly

I was disappointed by what they did with Kairi for multiple reasons.

Really, her fridging kind of underlines the long-recurring problem in this series of death being cheap. Like, we see her get fucking murdered right in front of us and five minutes later, the characters are all like, "Oh, I'm sure Kairi will be fine".

In that context, her fridging doesn't even really read as something that's meant to devistate Sora or motivate him to fight Xehanort, it feels like the writers just wanted to get her out of the way temporarily because they didn't know what to do with her.

Also, I was hoping they'd finally give them a Relationship Upgrade. I'm tired of the series dicking these poor kids around, playing coy and finding new reasons to keep them as star-crossed lovers. We know they both like each other, can we just stop beating around the bush with this and let them be happy?

No, we cannot. Because writers are uncreative and cannot conceive of any possible drama that can be wrung out of a romantic relationship other than the awkwardness of inexperienced people trying to get together for the first time.

Every story written about romance is about this one stage of the relationship, and the characters are only ever allowed to actually hook up when the final credits roll and there will never be another entry in the series again.

Plus it would piss off the Sora/Riku shippers and they're like 80% of the player base. Everyone knows Kairi's just a beard anyway.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 12th 2019 at 8:45:47 AM

Speaking of, I saw some pro-Soriku Kairi bashing fan art earlier and felt like I was transported back to 2006.

So that's a thing.

It’s not an absolute rule; stories about more established relationships do exist, but it’s a far too common trend.

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Death being cheap is super weird here specifically, considering we had, just a few hours of cutscenes earlier, a scene in which a bunch of characters outright died, with actual death being explained as a real thing that can happen. So to see something also obviously a killing blow just be a “thrown into another world” thing is weird. It’s like it’s not possible to know what is or isn’t actually a threat.

Edited by Enlong on Feb 12th 2019 at 11:18:10 AM

... Yep

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Feb 12th 2019 at 10:20:17 AM

I mean, joking aside, if they really wanted to push Sora/Riku as a pairing, they should stop being coy about that and give them a Relationship Upgrade. Don't try to have it both ways.

Except its Shonen.. being coy with relationships is the entire point

Shonen basically feeds off Shipper fuel and its War economy

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Feb 12th 2019 at 10:48:50 AM

I want to think that sharing the paopu fruit (FINALLY) might be that. Time will tell, though.

I mean.

People in Japan, especially men, especially middle-aged men like Nomura and a lot of Square staff are both homophobic and misogynistic as shit.

There's a thing I notice where.

"The Friendship Between Boys, it almost makes me jealous." I love that line delivery from Willa Holland because of how flat it is. It gives the sense that Aqua is as Done as I am.

Probably not intentional.

...Japan is a lot more, homosocial than the U.S.? I'm reminded of FFXV's comments about how a girl would instantly change the dynamic, and other comments from male Japanese writers about how important and special the bonds between young men are, which.

I'm not going to say that those sorts of attitudes are all bad, and certainly the way men in Japan and Japanese media fan confide in their friends, and complement each other, and be close is probably mostly better than male relationships in the West, with guys constantly fronting and pretending not to have feelings and avoiding any emotional intimacy to not seem gay.

Equally, though, what's troubling about it all is the way a lot of Japanese male writers seem to think it's not possible to be close friends with girls, which ties into treating girls like things and not people.

It's. I'm not an expert on Japanese culture of course but. I'm 99% what I just described is a Real Thing.

So Sora apparently ending up in TWEWY Shibuya means that he really is dead after using the Power of Waking and has to play a Reaper's Game to come back to life?

That be one hell of tutorial level

I guess it would justify the Bag of Spilling in the next game. Being dead would probably take a lot out of you.

Anyone wanna bet that Nomura had this planned from the start when he made that game?

Edited by M84 on Feb 13th 2019 at 1:04:32 AM

Yeah but then what do you do for the rest of the game?

Fight your way to the top of 'Heaven' or what appears to be heaven and find Mateus on the throne

Having won the right to live further, Sora leaves [WORLD BASED ON THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU] and begins wandering through the Forgotten Worlds in search of a world he can call familiar, with some crazy bs lore about what makes them "Forgotten" worlds, all the while the Foretellers arrive to torment Sora, their prophecy stuff letting them know before it even started that Sora would be this far out.

It ends on The End Of The World from the first game, because The World That Never Was ended up being brought back so why can't the other cool as heck final world come back as well

Edited by Numbuh1234 on Feb 12th 2019 at 9:24:32 AM

Sora' party members is this weird pair of 'brothers' well they say they think thier brothers cause they look alike one is a guy 'about 18/19 named 'Dan' and he's got Riku's Way to the Dawn and the other one is a younger '7-8'who uses this weird void magic shit... says his name is Ansem the Xth don't talk to much kinda shy like that... Heals more then Donald!

The world would be called Shibuya, would it not?

That or The UG

It’s fun going back to the beginning of this thread and seeing people misinterpert things, like people trying to figure out who the blue haired doll boss from toystory was.

I don't get it.

x9 While the series' reputation for Ho Yay is a little exaggerated IMO and most cases of it come down to strong Shipping Goggles, it does seem to me like they've made deliberate attempts to court the Yaoi Fangirl and Yuri Fan audiences with cases of The Not-Love Interest like Fang/Vanille in XIII and Noctis/Ignis in XV (hilariously, like Sora and Riku, Noctis also has a canon love interest who remains an Advertised Extra despite all the aggressive Character Shilling, and Ignis and Riku share the same Japanese VA). Before I'd argue that they had plausible deniability, but nowadays they surely know what kinds of Periphery Demographic they have.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 12th 2019 at 1:40:15 PM

The same team that made TWEWY made COM.

So we might see Sora giving up his memories again to play the Reaper's Game to get that second chance at life.

I don't think it'll be a tutorial.

I think we're getting a different prologue character here.

Sora losing his memories of his friends as his entry fee does seem likely. I’d expect the Reapers don’t have jurisdiction of people outside of the UG, so they can’t just take people like they did with Shiki (actually, is that even something they’re allowed to do, normally?).

Should be noted every Secret Movie is in the final World.

So Sora likely wont find out hes dead until the end of he game.