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This week, producer Ross Putnam started a Twitter account called "femscriptintros", where he puts up examples of how women are introduced in the screenplays he's read. And nearly all of sound like terrible porn or are too concerned with emphasizing said lady is beautiful despite whatever traits she may have. Here's a Take Two podcast made today where he talks about it.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 19th 2024 at 11:45:51 AM
Man, I thought you were going to have at least a half-solid defense of that argument.
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youUnlicensed or not, that doesn't make it satire. That is not how satire is done. This was a shitty cynical cash grab by a company that did not give a shit about the harmful message this would send until people actually lashed out. Then of course they responded with the same non-apology crap I've come to expect from people who are caught fucking up in public give out these days.
When people do shitty things like this, don't try to excuse it by claiming it's satire. The "Just Joking" Justification is all too often just horseshit.
Edited by M84 on Sep 22nd 2018 at 4:23:33 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedControversy asides, I was recently talking to a female friend of mine about what their plans for Halloween.
She responded that her and her groups of friends were planning on cosplaying as Handmaidens due to how amazingly easy it is to make the costumes. All they needed, she said, was to wear their red graduation robes from high school, buy some of those cheap riot-shield sun visors from a Daiso, and cover up the visors with taped white paper to make the bonnets.
The fun twist comes from the idea that underneath the robes, they'd be dressed as female characters such as Wonder Woman, Lara Croft, and Black Widow.
Go 'head, Zhao. Do your thing.
Also, I had no idea "Chloe" could be a Chinese forename.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.Why wouldn't it be?
Given the MCU' historial. This is surprisingly pleasant.
Watch me destroying my countryChloe Bennet (Daisy Johnson on Agents of SHIELD) is half-Chinese (on her father's side). Her birth name is Chloe Wang and the adopted last name "Bennet" is a tribute to her father (Bennet Wang).
And because she found it impossible to get auditions as Wang.
Yeah that's why she decided that she had to change it initially. But she chose that particular last name as a tribute to her dad (who's Chinese).
"And because she found it impossible to get auditions as Wang."
So we're NOT doing phrasing anymore ?
Wait let me do a thing... "It's a Hollywood audition, if you make it out, without seeing a Wang, you're lucky !"
Let’s not.
Glad to hear Marvel continued to pitch Zhao more stories after passing her on Black Widow.
The Doctor Strange one looks like he farted and is trying to play it off.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 22nd 2018 at 3:13:00 AM
EDIT: Who actually post the edited MCU pics with characters smiling here before deleting it? It was you, right?
Because I actually like the Dr. Strange pic.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 22nd 2018 at 4:17:37 AM
Watch me destroying my countryI have the feeling that they are looking for a second James Gunn...a young film maker with a sense for story telling which will go crazy with their lesser projects.
Good for them.
This is something I have noticed since phase 2. Beforehand Marvel was looking at directors with an established aesthetic which would fit whatever project they were going for. But after the success of The Avengers, The Winter Soldier and Got G, they seem to look mostly for directors who have first and foremost a sense for structure and story-telling.
I recently just learned that the name "Trini" is of Spanish origin. Appropriate, given that in the unaired pilot of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Trini was played by a latina actress.
And here I actually thought her being played by Becky G in the 2017 movie was just a coincidence.
She could also be made from Philipines without having to Race Lift her from Asian to Latino.
Or of course, she have the name because her family thought that it sounded nice.
See Peruvian athelete Osama Vinladen
Watch me destroying my countryTrue.
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Edited by windleopard on Sep 24th 2018 at 9:40:49 AM
Linh Le writes about Bojack Horseman and the inadequate rep of Vietnamese and Vietnamese-Americans in the episode “Dog Day Afternoon”.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 24th 2018 at 12:24:51 PM
This is getting nitpicky, but as my extended family can attest, you can spend most of your life in Boston and not have a trace of a Boston accent in your English, whether American-born or immigrant.
Accents can indeed be curious. A friend of mine grew up in the Deep South yet has no Southern accent unlike her family, yet can do a British accent convincing to British folks.
I enjoyed the episode and found it a highlight of the season, but it's disappointing to hear that they failed in many ways to make it authentic to the vietnamese-american experience. Bob-Waksberg seems like a reasonable and socially conscious person from all the interviews I've seen so hopefully some of the criticisms are making their way to him and we can see an improvement from season 6 onwards.
I am not sure if "whitewashing" is the right word there...it's more cultural erasure. Romani don't really look all that different from Europeans in general.
Iunno whether "Europeans in general" is a very meaningful qualifier, considering how some Mediterranean folks can look more like Turks or Iranians than Scandinavians or Western Europeans. But has there been any portrayal of the Romani that doesn't resort to offensive stereotypes? The only ones I can name off the top of my head are The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, Assassin's Creed: Revelations and "The Castafiore Emerald" from Tintin, which though sympathetic to them to different degrees still all reduce them to stereotypical roles.
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... costume made by a company, same as a sexy cop or a naughty nun, which is satirical in nature.
... what. That's... like, the exact opposite of a reasonable conclusion.
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