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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2376: Jan 9th 2023 at 11:12:16 AM

Is the etymology of "Islamophobia" particularly important for some reason?

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#2377: Jan 9th 2023 at 4:03:07 PM

It's not, even if he did coin the term it has no bearing on it validity. A single bad person coining a term doesn't mean it's illegitimate. Words can grow beyond their founders, what matters is the broader history and context they exist within.

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#2378: Oct 15th 2023 at 2:50:13 PM

Cross-posting from the US General Politics Thread: Man targeted 6-year-old boy, woman in deadly Plainfield stabbing because they are Muslim: detectives

Summary:

1. Palestian-American child Wadea Al-Fayoume and his mother were stabbed by their landlord Joseph M. Czuba. Wadea's dead but his mother survived and is hospitalized.

2. Detectives claim Czuba attacked the mother and child because they were Muslim and due to the news about the current Hamas vs. Israel conflict.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#2379: Oct 15th 2023 at 2:59:26 PM

Jesus, that is seriously fucked up. What a horrible human being.

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#2380: Oct 17th 2023 at 11:26:12 AM

The perp's actions should be viewed as an affront to any of G-d's servants.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#2381: Oct 17th 2023 at 12:30:28 PM

That's horrible and disgusting.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#2382: Oct 17th 2023 at 7:23:37 PM

Hearing of pro-Islamist extremist groups online calling for anyone to get rid of the guy and claimed that he has Jewish heritage.

I have yet to see anything regarding the suspect's heritage.

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#2383: Oct 17th 2023 at 7:31:44 PM

Especially since Czuba is a Polish name, not a designated Jewish one.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#2384: Oct 18th 2023 at 2:13:56 AM

The guy used to be a USAF veteran and prior to his stabbing, he has no problem with them. It's only until he heard of the Hamas attack via conservative news program on the radio and his paranoia on Hamas' call for a day of rage (and he found that the boy and his mom were Muslim) that he did his thing.

Some witnesses told the police that Czuba did make a treehouse for the boy.

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#2385: Oct 18th 2023 at 6:14:53 AM

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The famous voice actress Tara Strong has shown her ass by being Islamophobic. She was later fired from the indie cartoon, Boxtown, for her behavior, and then blamed it on antisemitism.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#2386: Oct 18th 2023 at 6:22:50 AM

Wow.

I saw a screenshot of a subtextually Islamophobic tweet from her (the second one you posted).

But when I looked on her feed it seemed like normal pro-Israel stuff and the kind of criticism of people celebrating the massacre that I had posted in the Israel thread (which maybe speaks badly of me).

That and some suspiciously specific stuff about having Muslim friends.

I didn’t think to look at her likes and didn’t expect her to be liking shit about Islam being terrorism. Yeah. She should be cancelled.

Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 18th 2023 at 6:23:53 AM

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#2388: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:46:54 AM

She seems to have backpaddled, in her recent Tweets she is speaking in favour of humanitarian aid towards Palestine.

Since she is a Jew, I am willing to cut her some slack for saying something stupid in the heat of the moment.

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#2389: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:53:51 AM

Social media is allowing way too many people to vent their rage publicly at the wrong targets.

Thank god twitter was invented years after 9/11.

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#2390: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:00:10 AM

Since she is a Jew, I am willing to cut her some slack for saying something stupid in the heat of the moment.

I'm not willing to cut her slack. Strong has had a very big reactionary streak for a while and her blaming her firing on being Jewish is ridiculous. One of the people who worked on Boxtown, Spencer Rothbell, is Jewish and mocked Strong's response for the ridiculous lie it was.

I also find the "Since she's a Jew" comment to be bizarre and mildly antisemitic. That gives her no excuse to be Islamophobic and go off about Hamas supposedly planning to take over the world.

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#2391: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:42:04 AM

I apologize if I worded it in a misunderstanding way, I didn't mean to say "She is a Jew, she can't help it.", I was referring to the fact that she has relatives living in the area and might not have thought straight at the time of her posting this.

As for her reactionary attitude, the only thing I know about her personal politics is that she has always voted Democrat and got accosted by a conservative Taxi Driver in 2018 or so over it, alongside a fellow Voice Actress.

What are you referring to?

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2392: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:48:05 AM

Strong is anti-vax and her followers have harassed people for criticizing her stances, never mind the same thing happening when she tried shilling for NFT's.

HotelCalifornia Since: Jan, 2011
#2393: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:55:33 AM

Since she is a Jew, I am willing to cut her some slack for saying something stupid in the heat of the moment.

Do you do the same for Muslims and Palestinians who says similarly stupid things in the heat of the moment? If not, then stop with this double standard. It's NEVER okay for anyone to say horrible shit like what she said.

Edited by HotelCalifornia on Oct 18th 2023 at 10:33:45 AM

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#2394: Oct 18th 2023 at 12:15:14 PM

Yeah, it should be noted that a willingness to understand moments of rage from every group except Muslims is pretty textbook Islamophobia.

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#2395: Oct 18th 2023 at 12:36:54 PM

Ugh. Sucks that someone whose one of their most famous roles involves friendship and understanding has turned out to be such a terrible person..

Edited by Resileafs on Oct 18th 2023 at 3:51:48 PM

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#2396: Oct 18th 2023 at 12:44:24 PM

If only it wasn't an act to begin with!

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#2397: Oct 18th 2023 at 12:54:20 PM

It's not unreasonable for a person to assume that an actor doing well in a given character role is because they have sufficient affinity with how the character is supposed to think (i.e. they think and believe like the character does in at least broad strokes), or at least intellectually understands that to a sufficient degree; the latter specifically means that we usually don't have to worry about actors who are good at playing morally horrible villains.

Unfortunately, it seems that Strong's case is of the latter sort rather than the former; she understands how a character who epitomizes friendship and tolerance is supposed to think, but is too shitty of a person to embody the same herself.

Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 18th 2023 at 10:55:38 PM

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#2398: Oct 21st 2023 at 4:42:29 PM

I'm having trouble following the conversation because I don't know who Strong is. Can someone fill me in?

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#2399: Oct 21st 2023 at 4:44:44 PM

[up]Tara Strong, a Jewish actress that has been making insensitive comments on Islam. One of her more well-known parts is the voice for Twilight Sparkle in My Little Pony; Friendship is Magic.

Some people would consider that ironic, considering how big the show is on love and tolerance.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#2400: Oct 21st 2023 at 4:46:00 PM

Removed contents of post because Kayeka beat me to it.

Edited by HallowHawk on Oct 21st 2023 at 4:46:34 AM


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