Sonic the Hedgehog movie

That hardly strikes me as excessive.

Movie clips aren't a product; I wouldn't count the Toyota one if the symbol's barely visible, in fact, you're making it sound like they tried to avoid showing that it was a Toyota; and I didn't even know what Zillow was until I looked it up just now.

Product Placement only ever bothers me when it awkwardly forces itself into the dialogue (like the Olive Garden bit). I don't bat an eye when I pass a Burger King in real life, why would I in a movie?

Frankly, I find Bland Name Products to be far more distracting.

That's... debatable.

Edited by Primis on Feb 18th 2020 at 8:36:12 AM

One way the sequel can firmly establish Robotnik as a Complete Monster is if Tails is kidnapped by him and subject to Cold-Blooded Torture so Robotnik can get information on Sonic's whereabouts, and then Robotnik plans to kill the poor fox because he sees no value in any of his powers (Of course, the torture would have to be off-screen or toned down to keep the PG rating).

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:18:22 AM

Tortured off-screen, you say? Why does that sound like the execution will fall flat?

The off-screen shots would be of Knuckles (who's also looking for Sonic) overhearing the torture in utter horror and setting off to rescue the fox.

It involves forcing Tails to watch endless episodes of Sonic SatAM

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I'm getting a feeling of Déjà Vu with 's post.

Have you made that joke before?

Or worse: Underground, which he's inexplicably absent from.

> Have you made that joke before?

according to one of my past lives I did

You think Agent Stone would return in a sequel? (What even happened to him?)

The military probably arrested him.

As far as a sequel goes, Scott Mendelson of Forbes did an interesting op-ed on how the sequel should explore Sonic's world more, and how Jim Carrey should be the only human actor retained (for obvious reasons).

I thought the same thing.

Sorry for the lateness of my reply. ^_^;;

I don't mind studios popping in bits of their older movies/shows on television, mostly because it's kind of necessary: if you have a character watching tv, you can either spend the money to create an entire new scene for them to be watching, or spend the money to license something else.

Or you can just use a clip you already have the rights to that's just sitting around your archives.

Warner Bros does it all the time. You can make a drinking game out of characters in Warner Bros movies watching Looney Tunes.

It's pretty remarkable that Longclaw is being embraced with open arms by the Sonic fandom despite a) being a movie-only character and b) supposedly dying within the first five minutes of the movie.

Don't forget the realistic design!

The Sonic fandom loves new characters as long as they're interesting and well conceived, contrary to how they're generally perceived.

People generally like Sticks the Badger too, even though the game she came from was trash. And when it comes to complete adoption, just look at how they embraced a character who was just a confusing sprite and didn't even exist!

‘Omelette’ for smash bros!

Not even lying, I wouldn't mind seeing Omelette officially replace Egg-Robo as the designated "robotic Eggman" character. It'd be fun and quirky, but in a good way.

I wish Omelette was a thing too XD

I would love it if they officially introduced her as Eggman's niece.

The concept and design are just too good to let them be forgotten.

They can't unfortunately and that really,really sucks (its something to do with whoever created her,they would have to sign over rights and yadda yadda yadda)

However,they can give him a niece based off their own ideas as a neat little shout out

Well, they know who the original person who came up with her is, if they wanted to they could just ask for the rights.

And pay them basically

Or granddaughter.

What? Nega already proves he passes on his genes in some fashion.

No idea why given there wasn't a whole lot of setup.

But I teared up a little with that opening scene.

Really enjoyed the movie though. I'm hoping it gets a sequel.

It was just a fun time.

I actually forgot Birds of Prey had already come out, so that wasn't intended as a slight on Bo P. But, I would conversely argue that Bo P isn't going for the same demographic and thus not technically competition.

No, I assure you I see plenty of movies. But I admit I'm also kind of factoring out bad indie or amateur films, things like The Room which is in no way on the same level of competency as actual big budget film industry products, and... I admit I also reserve truly awful movies for home andtotallylegallyobtained viewing where I can drink and riff to my heart's content which arguably make them more enjoyable.

If I were to factor them in, sure, Sonic isn't the worst movie ever. But I also would consider that like... an adult winning a kid's karate tournament. There's a disparity in competition there and I also don't have the expectations of an indie studio as I do a hollywood studio. I harp on Paramount because they know better.

The script is... pretty incoherent. There is absolutely no reason for this film to have James Marsden (poor James Marsden. What deity did you piss off to make this movie yet again?) at all. No reason for it to be a road trip movie either. Sonic is... literally the worst possible character to adapt into a road trip movie considering his entire thing is 'I run really fast'.

He literally runs to the Pacific Ocean within 5 seconds and back, with no given reason that he can't just... go to San Fran on his own. Long before Robotnik can even catch up to him, mind you. Or run up the building and avoiding the totally needed "I am openly admiting to stuffing a small child in my bag" joke.

Or the hamfisted "This small town relies on you" while we leave said small town behind and really give no actual reason for him to stay there. "Yeah, they can call on anyone, but they call on you." ...Because he's the sheriff and it's his job? He's literally THE person to call? Should my plumber be enamored when I call him to fix my pipes?

The script is incompetent and incoherent on a cookie-cutter level. It knows EVERY. SINGLE. KIDS. MOVIE. TROPE. EVER. but absolutely no understanding about any of those tropes and how to make them work. It knows that the whole 'Mob of people rallies to the hero in the third act to show they now care about him' trope is a thing, but... doesn't do anything to build to that since none of these are people we've met or care about. Spider-Man's "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us" is at least kinda earned, if cringy, since the entire movie has been set in NYC and discussed Spider-Man's relationship to the larger populace.

Also, going to say it, Sonic is an outright douchebag and has no redeeming qualities. Marsden's character only comes to like him and consider him a friend because the script's cliches demand it. Also... "I'm sad because no one high fived me... so I'm going to just run in a circle to insitgate the plot randomly" anyone?

The movie is bad an incompetent for the level of effort and budget put into it. It's flacid, meaningless, and will probably be forgotten by next year if not next month.

Edited by InkDagger on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:09:32 AM