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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1126: Sep 22nd 2021 at 2:33:07 PM

Bolsonaro didn't just get scares, he got an actual infection...

On the upside, it seems like, over half a million fatalities later, Brazil now has a decent vaccination campaign.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#1127: Sep 22nd 2021 at 6:37:51 PM

We have public health care, experience with mass vaccination and a population that is overall not hostile to vaccines. If it wasn't for Bolsonaro and his ilk doing their best to slow it down, we could have done more much sooner I bet. A fucking shame but it is good we managed to kick to high gear eventually.

Edited by Heatth on Sep 22nd 2021 at 10:38:02 AM

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#1128: Sep 25th 2021 at 2:34:36 AM

I find kinda funny how people actually are willing to risk going to jail to have more than one or two shots of the vaccine.

Pretty big contrast compared to some of the conservatives in the US who refuse to take even one.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#1129: Sep 28th 2021 at 8:39:40 AM

So Bolsonaro, after famously avoiding basically all debates against his opponents in the 2018 election, has apparently had a change of heart and stated "it would be a pleasure to debate against him (Lula)" in the 2022 election (link in portuguese).

I honestly have my doubts about this because Bolsonaro is a pretty poor debater and would likely get eviscerated by not just Lula but most other candidates, but while we're on the subject, the prospects for next year are not looking so good for the current president. The polls have had him losing to Lula ever since his name was included in polls again, and the gulf between them just keeps widening with recent polls showing him losing from anywhere between 18% to 25% (links in portuguese) in the first round. He also loses even harder in most simulations of a runoff that I can find.

We're still very far off from the election so there's quite a lot that can happen, but I think all the people crying for a third option are going to be disappointed. There's simply way too large a gulf between Lula and Bolsonaro and everyone else (the whole third option thing has a lot of other stuff to unpack as to why it's dumb, but that's another can of worms). Beyond that, what I can say is I don't think Bolsonaro's approval is going to improve that much going forward since I can't see him doing anything that would susbtantially improve it.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Sep 28th 2021 at 12:46:34 PM

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#1131: Sep 28th 2021 at 2:55:53 PM

He's like what, 7-8% in most polls I can find, if that? Like I said, we're basically a year away, but he has a lot of ground he wants to make up by then if he wants a chance. I don't think it's likely, though.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1132: Sep 28th 2021 at 3:32:45 PM

Ciro basically shot himself in the foot when he refused to support the worker's party in any away against Bolsonaro (famously traveling to Paris). He has if nothing else doubled down on it since, despite the common choir that the left needs to unite. His reputation in the left-wing is basically scorched by his tendency to attack left-wing figures who aren't allied with him.

This ended up with the left largely finding him a unreliable traitor and the right finding him a filthy commie. His game seems to be appealing to moderates and pitching himself as "the third way" between Lula and Bolsonaro (the same routine he did in 2018, but tripled down now with his talks of holding the constitutuon and the bible in equal regard like an absolute idiot) but what he has achieved is just alienating everybody on both sides of the political spectrum except for his hardcore base.

It's possible he recovers in this meantime, but Ciro has just made a fantastic job of rendering himself increasingly more irrelevant despite his strong showing in 2018. He's like the left's counterpart to Sergio Moro, who seemed primed to be a huge figure but rendered himself into irrelevance by alienating everyone on both sides of the spectrum.

Edited by Gaon on Sep 28th 2021 at 3:34:37 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1133: Oct 27th 2021 at 11:54:07 AM

Global Climate Change Impacts Attributable to Deforestation driven by the Bolsonaro Administration. Now while I don't think this report will have the intended effect, I am a little amazed by how large the environmental impact of the Bolsonaro administration is.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
JCCyC _________ Authority. from Brazil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
_________ Authority.
#1134: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:56:47 AM

Re: "So how many Covid-19 scares has Bolsonaro had? I've lost count and I reckon he has too."

Nobody knows. He's put a 100-year-long classified status on his vaccination record. Reports of him both having and not having covid are not to be trusted. It feels... almost Soviet. The fanaticism of his followers does reek of Stalinism.

I wonder if Candle Jack also pays attention to signat
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1135: Aug 18th 2022 at 2:28:21 PM

So, is this a reliable source? It alleges that in a WhatsApp group pro-Bolsonaro businessmen have claimed that they'd prefer a coup to a new Lula presidency.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1136: Aug 18th 2022 at 2:34:42 PM

That is correct, yes. It's set to have follow-up reportings in what could be the greatest scandal since Vaza-Jato (where the secret chats of Operation Carwash got leaked and revealed the entire operation was by and large a sham). Who knows if it'll have any tangible repercussions though (Vaza-Jato ended up searing Sergio Moro's political career probably beyong repair, but that was that and Moro is nothing compared to the wealthiest men of the country).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#1137: Aug 30th 2022 at 2:32:08 PM

A very sad day:

The last surviving member of an Indigenous tribe has died

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/30/1119939392/last-member-uncontacted-tribe-dies-brazil?t=1661895002514

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#1138: Jan 8th 2023 at 11:25:32 AM

Pro-Bolsonaro protesters storm Brazil’s Congress in capital

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Supporters of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro stormed Congress in the capital on Sunday, climbing on top of its roof and breaking the glass in its windows.

Others demonstrators were gathering outside the presidential palace and Supreme Court, although it was not immediately clear whether they had managed to break into the buildings.

The incidents, which recalled the Jan. 6 invasion of the U.S. Capitol, come just a week after leftist President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva was sworn in on Jan. 1.

Bolsonaro supporters have been protesting against Lula’s electoral win since Oct. 30, blocking roads, setting vehicles on fires and gathering outside military buildings, asking armed forces to intervene.

Oh joy. :|

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1139: Jan 8th 2023 at 11:42:44 AM

[up] And here I was thinking that Bolsonaro's decision to leave the country instead of trying to pull Trump means it is not going to happen. Sadly, I was mistaken.

Edited by Risa123 on Jan 8th 2023 at 8:43:47 PM

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#1140: Jan 8th 2023 at 11:55:39 AM

For the fucks sake.

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Lalapolpolpol Since: May, 2019
#1141: Jan 8th 2023 at 12:27:42 PM

It takes a special kind of idiot to fight for a so-called "patriot" who isn't even in the very country they're invading the congress of.

I'm genuinely surprised this happened since the number of videos that popped with Bolsonaro supporters pissed at him for getting out of Brazil.

Edited by Lalapolpolpol on Jan 8th 2023 at 5:29:17 PM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#1142: Jan 8th 2023 at 2:12:34 PM

The South-American far right has a lot of imagination when it comes to usurping power, but since in Brazil the methods of impeachment on shaky grounds (against Roussef) and of Joker Jury (against Lula last time) had already been used, and since claims of electoral fraud are hardly credible when they were the ones in power, the only method left was the stupidest one…

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#1143: Jan 8th 2023 at 2:54:38 PM

[up]That's the thing though. The brazilian right doesn't have any creativity whatsoever. All they've done for years now is just copy (sloppily) whatever the US right does. This is all just a product of the brazilian qanon. Same exact psychology, reality denialism, and tactics.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Jan 8th 2023 at 8:25:13 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1144: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:01:02 PM

They were even late.

At least the January 6th rioters rioted on the right day. And while their golden calf was still in the capital.

This is an even shittier version of something that was already shitty.

Edited by M84 on Jan 8th 2023 at 7:01:30 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1145: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:01:53 PM

The police also unsurprisingly escorted them to make their assault easier.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1146: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:07:35 PM

Lula claimed it was "incompetence or bad faith" in the article. The only mistake there was that he didn't include the possibility of both.

Police fired tear gas to try to regain control of the buildings. About 6:30 p.m. local time (4:30 p.m. EST), less than four hours after the storming, security forces were shown on television backing protesters away from the Supreme Court and marching them down a ramp to the presidential palace with their hands secured behind their backs.

But with the damage already done, many in Brazil were questioning how the police had ignored abundant warnings, were unprepared or were somehow complicit.

Lula said at his news conference there was “incompetence or bad faith″ on the part of police, and that they had been likewise complacent when Bolsonaro supporters rioted in the capital weeks ago. He promised those officers would be punished and expelled from the corps.

Disgusted, but not surprised
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1147: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:09:20 PM

He should have them arrested and jailed honestly.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1148: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:15:30 PM

That's actually being considered, at least for the capital's ex-head of public security.

Federal District Gov. Ibaneis Rocha confirmed on Twitter he had fired the capital city’s head of public security, Anderson Torres. Local media reported that Torres is currently in the U.S.

The office of Lula’s attorney general asked the Supreme Court to order Torres’ imprisonment.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CosmosAndChaos Pissed off Sakura from Brazil (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Pissed off Sakura
#1149: Jan 8th 2023 at 3:23:51 PM

Of course they would do that.😡

Never watched Naruto, but that face is definitely avatar-worthy.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#1150: Jan 8th 2023 at 4:48:26 PM

I was kinda wondering who Lula would have serve the arrest, though. The people with the guns don't seem too keen on civilian control or the chain of command right now.


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