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Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:51:29 PM
Looking it up, Quinn is F -> NB. No indication if they've taken hormones, but soccer doesn't seem to be one of those sports for which hormones has as significant of an impact anyway.
Per their Wikipedia page:
Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 2nd 2021 at 9:31:36 AM
Since we're on the subject where do non-binary people usual fit into these conversations? From what I can tell they usually focus on whether or not trans women being participating is the absolute end of all sports forever or not.
Most often, nonbinary people end up competing as their assigned gender at birth (see Quinn, or Sonny Kiss in pro wrestling), but I’d say they actually further prove the idea that gender segregated sports are kind of nonsense.
One of the pains of being nonbinary is that things are still segregated by the gender binary. I can say that from experience.
Muggle Quidditch is one of the few sports that are officially regulated to be co-ed. I wish it were an Olympic sport.
The irony is astounding
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No, but Quidditch identifies people by the gender they identify with, and NB is an option.
Which ought to give JKR's bigoted ass a completely deserved case of the vapors.
Edited by Ramidel on Aug 4th 2021 at 5:13:37 AM
Roll a Constitution saving throw to make it through the year.
That's specific to muggle quidditch, then. And Rowling can just fume that fans of her works don't buy into her bigotry.
Transitioning Teens on BBC Three, covering the process of transition, self-medication, experience with the Tavistock clinic, and the ongoing court case.[1]
It's the BBC, so I only partially trust it.
TV Tropes's No. 1 bread themed lesbian. she/her, fae/faerBBC television is run (at least at the local level) by different people than the bigots at BBC news (who not long ago tried to ban some staff from attending Pride on the grounds that it violated political neutrality).
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThat’s downright sad. A decade ago the BBC was my single most trusted global news source.
Voted on the referendum on allowing same sex marriage in Switzerland. "Aye", naturally.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanGood!
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”Darren Agee Merager, who was at the center of the whole LA spa controversy a few months back, is being charged for indecent exposure. Apparently, she is also a registered sex offender
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-02/indecent-exposure-charges-filed-trans-woman-spa
Ain't that gonna give these assholes on the right fuel again.....
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianPedantic, I know, but this is more suited for the LGBT rights in America thread.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanA bit late, but a fortnight ago the Office of Communications withdrew from Stonewall's "Diversity Champions" scheme over the risk of perceived political bias.[1]
Still no update on the Bell v Tavistock appeal, but we have this separate case:
A child safeguarding expert has been awarded £20,000 by an employment tribunal following a case against Tavistock & Portman NHS Trust.note
The Observer
A child safeguarding expert who faced vilification after raising concerns about the safety of children undergoing treatment at a London NHS gender identity clinic has won an employment tribunal case against the hospital trust.
Sonia Appleby, 62, was awarded £20,000 after an employment tribunal ruled the NHS’s Tavistock and Portman trust’s treatment of her damaged her professional reputation and “prevented her from proper work on safeguarding”.
Appleby, an experienced psychoanalytical psychotherapist, was responsible for protecting children at risk from maltreatment.
The tribunal heard evidence she raised concerns about the treatment of increasing numbers of children being referred to the trust’s Gender Identity Development Service (Gids).
The service in Hampstead has been at the heart of a controversy over its treatments, including the provision of drugs known as puberty blockers to children as young as 10.
The tribunal heard that some staff were particularly worried about a private GP, Dr Helen Webberley, who on her own initiative was issuing prescriptions for puberty blocking drugs to young people being assessed by Gids, or who were on the waiting list for assessment. They approached Appleby with concerns that taking hormones before assessment could pose a risk to children. Sonia Appleby Sonia Appleby
The tribunal heard evidence that after she raised the concerns, instead of addressing them, the trust management ostracised her and attempted to prevent her from carrying out her safeguarding role, by sidelining her. Appleby said the management’s action amounted to a “full-blown organisational assault”.
She alleged staff were told she had an “agenda”.
Appleby claimed that since then she has been unable to fulfil her role as a named professional for safeguarding children at Tavistock and Portman NHS centre, England’s only gender identity clinic for children.
She had also questioned whether record-keeping was adequate and recommended the trust introduce a manual or policy to assist “clear thinking” about cases and assess whether there was a history of abuse or safeguarding concerns before initiating treatment. She raised further concerns that staff were too overworked to properly consider safeguarding issues.
The trust denied treating Appleby unfairly, claiming that aspects of her disclosures and “the way she made them” affected the way she was treated. It alleged she was “not really concerned about safeguarding or service delivery” and that she had been “accusatory in approach”, the tribunal judgment said.
In its conclusion, the tribunal found that she was subjected to “quasi disciplinary treatment” following her whistleblowing disclosures, which were seen by some managers as “unwarranted interference”.
It concluded that there was “obvious unfairness” in the way Appleby was dealt with by the trust after hearing she was not given any notice ahead of a disciplinary meeting, there was no investigation and she did not have an opportunity to appeal.
Elliot Hammer, who represented Appleby, said on Saturday: “We are very happy the tribunal vindicated Ms Appleby. It is a great win and we are very appreciative of the witnesses that came forward to support her and who gave the evidence that she needed to defend herself.”
One witness, former Tavistock and Portman consultant psychiatrist David Bell, said he had also faced disciplinary threats from the trust when he raised concerns about Gids and child safety.
Bell said, after being shown a copy of the tribunal judgment by the Observer, that it showed the Tavistock and Portman trust became “so caught up in the politicisation of the subject of gender identity it had lost sight of its duty to safeguard children.
“I think the judgment confirms the view that the trust are not capable of dealing objectively with things such as child safeguarding and the treatment of whistleblowers,” he said.
“Instead of properly investigating serious safeguarding issues they tried to suppress them and behaved inappropriately towards the person in charge of safeguarding across the trust as well as a number of other members of staff.
“There are much wider implications for the trust. This evidence casts the trust in a very bad light. You might think [if] the senior medical director or the chief executive of the trust had heard staff were being told not to report serious allegations of safeguarding it would be extremely worrying, and yet very little has been done.”
A spokesperson for the Tavistock and Portman NHS foundation trust said: “The trust is disappointed by the tribunal’s decision and is considering it carefully. It would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage.”
And in other news from the UK that will surprise nobody familiar with The Guardian, a section of an interview with Judith Butler (who is non-binary) was cut by the UK section of the paper.
The part of the interview that was cut was a part where Butler discusses alliances between Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists and the Far Right.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/08/judith-butler-guardian-interview-terf-trans/
Edited by Captain1312 on Sep 13th 2021 at 11:18:11 AM
1212, 1312I actually am surprised. I've never heard of any transphobic biases from Guardian Australia or US, though with all the branches sharing the same site, it could be rather hard to tell. Which major UK news outlets have the least transphobic reputation right now?
Echoing hymn of my fellow passerine | Art blog (under construction)Just to make clear, it was the UK office that cut that part of the interview, not the US. The US reporting is a lot better than the UK version, and the interviewer stated that the two branches have very different outlooks in regards to Trans issues.
1212, 1312It's been noted that the US branch has actually distanced itself from the UK one over its transphobia.
Edited by M84 on Sep 13th 2021 at 6:48:48 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Which ones? Most sites I've read respected their pronouns.
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