The Scrappy Cleanup

Eh, I haven't seen much hate for Antoine. Most people (including me) actually find him quite funny, so I don't think he fits.

Sally does count though, Base Breaker or not.

edited 17th Jun '13 10:12:39 PM by MsCC93

Yamcha? Yeah he's full-on scrappy then. A fanbase hating a character, invoking Ron the Death Eater, and very few fans? Sounds like a scrappy to me.

edited 15th Apr '13 9:26:38 AM by Misskitten

Do you watch the show though??

It's been a while since I've watched Dragon Ball(slowy got bored of it for some reason), but from they way you described Yamcha he sounds like a scrappy.

I also think Meg Griffin counts as a scrappy because every time I see a family guy question or thread on whose the worst character, either her or Brian get the most votes.

Meg is decidingly NOT a Scrappy. More fans sympathize with her than any other character due to the hatred she gets in universe.

As for Dragon Ball, Yamcha doesn't count.

And a Base Breaker can count if the fans who make them a breaker are in a minority.

Well that may be true, but every time I go on forums, people complain about Meg being whiny, but I think she can stay as a base breaker.

As for Yamcha, I still think he's a Scrappy because fans always talk about how "useless" he is and he gets a lot of complaints along with Chi-Chi, Krillin, and Pan.

Meg is at least consistently blamed for having a character dynamic that derailed the series for a lot of people. Whether or not they like Meg, the Comedic Sociopathy directed towards garnered a lot of critism.

Meg is more of an example as an 'in universe' Scrappy. However, if you go to more forums you're bound to see she's not the most hated member of the Family Guy cast, with that title either falling to current Peter, Brian, or even Quagmire since all.

And Yamcha never really has been hated. He has a lot of fans.

May I have some proof.??

As for Meg, I agree with Psi. I also notice that Brian isn't that well liked, so he stays as a Scrappy.

Well, this very site is the best means of info. Probably could check Narutoforums in the Theater to see if opinions there too.

Thanks Super Saiya Man

Anyway, the issue of the Scrappies of Total Drama Island was finally solved (for now), because a user kept trying to shoehorn Noah and Ezekial into it.

I checked the history and one troper whined about how the example of Jimmy was written and how it was "biased." It made me Face Palm because although I do my share of complaining, I think it's petty to complain about how an example is written. Really? Really? That fandom is petty, I swear...

Anyway, for the Anime subpage, it's doing well on the cleaning up so far, especially on the Pokemon section.

edited 17th Apr '13 5:16:11 AM by MSCC93

Well, out of context, it doesn't seem that petty, really, since if it is biased it should probably be rewritten. It's more of a Repair Dont Respond situation. If you think an example is badly written, you should either repair it, bring it to discussion if there's an edit war situation, or if it's one of the needs-discussion tropes, bring it to that thread.

edited 17th Apr '13 6:25:38 AM by AnotherDuck

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It still is petty if it's over a cartoon that isn't real. It's understandable if it's a Real Life example, but it's a cartoon. Complaining and whining about it isn't the solution, which is why many tropes have the NRLEP tag, because tropers whine a lot.

I agree about simply repairing and not responding, but don't complain.

edited 17th Apr '13 7:41:10 AM by MSCC93

Bumping this thread...

Any nominations or cuts

I'm still torn about Lelouch being under the Scrappy. I know that Code Geass is one of the most notorious broken bases out there, but Lelouch seems way too popular to be a scrappy.

I don't think he counts. Now, I'm not a fan of the show (I've been close to taking my time to watch it, though), so I may not know a lot, but I've never seen complaints about him (this right here was the first). On the other hand, I have seen lots of praises.

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Does anyone here think that Babidi from Dragon Ball should be considered a Scrappy, despite being a CM?

Although complete monsters are supposed to be hated characters, I noticed that fans don't hate him for the awful things he did, they hate him for non-villainous things like being "annoying" and bratty, and never see him as evil as much as Frieza, Cell, or Buu.

Plus, I think villains who are hated for non-villainous things should count since they aren't intentionally supposed to be hated for non-villainous traits.

edited 20th Apr '13 7:49:52 AM by MSCC93

Remember that The Scrappy and Complete Monster don't exclude each other.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Okay, it's just that I thought that people would accuse me of trying to shoehorn, that's why.

As for the Bulma entry, Bulma is a Base Breaker to me, and Chi-Chi, to me is a Broken Base, because as much as a lot of fans hate her, there's like 30-40% of people defending her. Also, in a DBZ wiki site, she is on a lot of lists as a fan's favorite character. (not saying she should be removed)

We should keep Pan and Giru, because I rarely see any Pan or Giru fans. There are many forums dedicated to hating them.

edited 20th Apr '13 8:32:16 AM by MSCC93

I have one questionable Scrappy example that I'd like to cut. It's listed in YMMV.Mansfield Park. While it's true that Fanny Price might be the least popular of Jane Austen heroines, she's by no means universally hated. She can be seen perhaps as a Base Breaker as some fans don't like her and cannot warm up to her, but she's no Scrappy. I'm active in one JA's online community and she actually receives a lots of love and from some even gushing.

What say you? Can I burn it?

edited 22nd Apr '13 9:14:35 AM by XFllo

Go ahead and burn it. A character needs to have massive hatedom to count.

Kill It with Fire! That's basically shoehorning.

Done!

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And... since I'm here, I might as well bring up characters from my other favourite works. First one to go is YMMV.The X Files.

(Next one will be YMMV.Horatio Hornblower, but in the case of Hornblower, I should probably ask for more opinions at a web-page where I channel my inner crazy fangirl and the love I have for this series.)

Warning, this might be spoilerific. It's not a long ago when one troper was mildly annoyed with me for spoiling the later seasons of The X-Files for him.

• The Scrappy entries at YMMV.The X Files
  • Spender and Fowley, probably intentionally. A couple of unsympathetic agents who are assigned to the X-Files. One doesn't care a bit about the cases and the other is a rat collaborating with The Conspiracy. And forced as a Romantic False Lead and Old Flame to Mulder. Ugh.
    • My take on those two: Spender probably shouldn't count. His apparent death was Alas, Poor Scrappy and his last appearances in season 9 were fairly sympathetic. He's also not as big a character methinks. I've never heard any serious complaints about him. But I could be missing something and could be wrong.
    • Diana Fowley, on the other hand, is probably The Scrappy of this show. Her actions are not as such to qualify her for Hate Sink, though she clearly was not meant to be likeable. And boy, is she hated! I've never read a fan reaction that would be in favour of this bitch. Even though her death redeems her to a degree, she's still hated and I think there was not a fan who would shed a tear for her.
  • Unintentionally, Doggett and especially Reyes were often seen this way. The chemistry they had couldn't compare the the epic levels which Mulder and Scully had.
    • My take: They are probably Replacement Scrappy characters. I've never watched the last two seasons with them in full because I didn't much care for the show at that point. I think Doggett has a fair share of fans, therefore he doesn't count. Monica Reyes has it worse. With her I'm on the fence. I don't mind her, but I don't love her either. I don't know what other X-Philes think, unfortunately.
  • Around season 8, David Duchovny's real-life actions — an unfortunately well-publicized lawsuit against Fox over a salary dispute, and increasing derision of the show in interviews — frustrated some fans enough to bleed over into dislike for Mulder as a character.
    • I think this entry should be cut. Mulder is the hero of the show and a pretty cool guy, even though he has loserish vibes sometimes. He received some hate when he was a jerk to Scully, but he's definitely not a Scrappy.

Opinions?

edited 22nd Apr '13 9:12:18 AM by XFllo