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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2176: Sep 4th 2019 at 10:03:37 PM

Fair enough. Those things were damned long.

One Strip! One Strip!
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#2177: Sep 4th 2019 at 10:50:57 PM

Yes, God forbid they interfere with your ability to see a blurry picture of anime titties in the background
Its FAR more than that, they rewrote huge portions of the game. They straight up rewrite entire chapters to whitewash the more questionable parts of being an Idol... Its basically not even the same game.

And even went so far as to get the Japanese V As to rerecord the dialog to match the script for a sub only game. Its not like Tales of Heart R where they wrote the script planning on a dub but only canceled at the last minute, they went to great lengths to censor the game.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
#2178: Sep 5th 2019 at 1:54:05 AM

"What's the combat system like?"

It's more like a traditional Turn-Based RPG, so closer to a Shin Megami Tensei game than a Fire Emblem one.

"Not the fact that it looks like Barry, Maiko and Tiki will either be playable, or at least be able to join sessions?"

Oh man, I hope they all are. Particularly Maiko.

Honestly my biggest hope for this re-release is that it'll lead to a Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE 2.

Edited by WolfThunder on Sep 5th 2019 at 1:55:09 AM

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
#2179: Sep 5th 2019 at 4:44:49 PM

Also note one of the characters (Tsubasa?) has a Masked Dancer Azura outfit. Despite my many issues with the story and cast of Fates, i'd be down with a new Fates themed scenario, not least of which because dancing/songs (Well, A song) is a big part of Fates.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#2180: Sep 5th 2019 at 5:56:29 PM

There's also a Three Houses school uniform costume, so who knows what else we'll get.

Tiki is cool. Maiko is okay. Barry is bleh. The sessions speed up is definitely the big thing.

Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.
Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#2181: Sep 6th 2019 at 12:38:55 AM

[up][up]It's actually the boss (Maiko?) wearing that outfit, not Tsubasa, I think.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#2183: Sep 14th 2019 at 12:52:09 PM

[up]Huh, one of those costumes is the Garreg Mach uniform. Nice.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2184: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:54:36 PM

I wouldn't have minded the Bowdlerization if it had just been altering the outfits, but rewriting an entire chapter is crossing the line for me. The localization team IMO should have gotten several Boots to the Head for doing that.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:58:46 AM

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2185: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:25:58 PM

One can hope that they'll learn this time and either undo it, or just have a day 1 optional patch to fix it.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2186: Sep 14th 2019 at 7:19:04 PM

I'm not getting my hopes up. I think that they're going to stick to their guns and alienate their target audience in the process. Of course, we could get a fan-made patch that will restore the original content a second time but who knows how long that will take and let's be real: it would eventually get invalidated by a mandatory update or something if it actually happens...

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Sep 14th 2019 at 7:20:37 AM

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#2187: Sep 14th 2019 at 7:48:59 PM

lmao all they did was rework the story so it wasn't about underage girls modeling in gravure

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#2188: Sep 14th 2019 at 7:53:37 PM

[up][up]Yeah man. I gotta ask if this is a hill worth dying on.

I get it, censorship sucks but this feels like a fight that just ain't worth it.

One Strip! One Strip!
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2189: Sep 14th 2019 at 8:17:32 PM

[up]I say that it is a fight worth dying for. Hell, I say that it's a fight worth risking nuclear annihilation for.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Sep 14th 2019 at 8:19:18 AM

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#2190: Sep 14th 2019 at 8:33:14 PM

You're talking about jpegs of underage anime tiddies.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2191: Sep 14th 2019 at 8:42:12 PM

[up]Nope, talking about the darker aspects of the idol industry, You Fool!...

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Sep 14th 2019 at 8:43:25 AM

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#2192: Sep 14th 2019 at 8:53:58 PM

I mean the game is supposed to be a peppy and uplifting anime idol story right? Analogous to Westerners that'd be someone trying to break into showbiz, and to Westerners we really don't want sexualized underaged girls in our Nintendo games.

The weirdest thing about this game to me has always been that it's about performers and actors and idols but you cast Generic Everymanington as the lead. Why not make Tsubasa the main character?

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#2193: Sep 14th 2019 at 8:56:12 PM

Because Atlus must put Boring McBland Face as their lead even if it serves no purpose at all.

Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2194: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:00:00 PM

[up][up]It really shows that in the end, I prefer SMT over peppy idol bullshit. At the end of the day, after alignments are set you kill anyone who disagrees with you. Girl wants to be a prude? Fight to the death. Anime villain blocking your way to the Final Boss? Fight to the death.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Sep 14th 2019 at 9:00:30 AM

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#2195: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:01:14 PM

I was on the fence over who to side in this argument and then this post happened and now there's a hole the size of my forehead in a wall of my house.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#2196: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:03:14 PM

"Wah, I don't get to see a 15 year old's breasts!" has always been a supremely dumb argument, don't pretend it's not.

Why not focus anti-censorship anger on stuff like governments clamping down on even the slightest whiff of criticism?

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#2197: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:14:43 PM

The main core of the issue is that the original trailer for TMS had the game intended to have an M rating, but it was a T for the western release, for whatever reason, even though the developers wanted the game to be M rated over here.

Thats my main crux of it.

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DemonDamian Creating a new humanity Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Creating a new humanity
#2198: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:22:56 PM

[up][up]It's also a strawman argument. Don't pretend it's not. Censorship should be opposed on principle, not just when it's doing so to things I like or agree with. No one in this conversation is saying they want to get off to an underage girl in a bathing suit, people just jump to that because it makes the argument easy to deal with.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#2199: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:49:15 PM

Cries of "censorship!" go up every time a writer changes something for any reason—including, or rather especially when that thing is "garbage character designs".

Lets not pretend that most of the whining about #FE and similar games isn't because certain parts of the internet take it personally when they're denied underage anime tits.

Most of the altered outfits look better anyway so it's a net positive.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#2200: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:09:27 PM

"Censorship" is an actual problem when a governing body or someone in power does it, not when a game company alters their product to appeal to a new audience.


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