Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
On the contrary, "Ambiguous Religion(s)" is very much a bad choice of name, for the sole reason that the construction by its very nature implies that it's about a religion that is ambiguous about what it's about, rather than about a person's religious affiliation being ambiguous. Now, if you had instead named it "Ambiguous Religious Affiliation" or "Ambiguous Religious Identity", then it would've been a different story.
edited 21st Mar '17 11:06:27 AM by MarqFJA
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Ambigiously Religious and Ambigious Religion mean two different things. you need to use the name that means what the trope is.
I also find the 'most Christians are white' pretty insulting, with whites being low in number compared to everyone else, and Christianity in a thousand different forms being found throughout all populations on this planet. (I admit to being a total bookworm, though.)
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. I'm not usually corrected on Plurality vs Majority in casual conversation. I'll strive to be more formal.
Someone asked about an index for "Playing With A Trope". I've never heard of a "Laconic List" before. Is this a thing? Should it be?
Lost in Space
It seems to be intended as a subindex for certain types of Laconic subpages, but I can't see the point.
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Then the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of those who did see your draft in YKTTW/TLP during those three years, because personally speaking, if I was even aware that 1) the draft existed, and 2) nobody suggested a different name, I would've made at least one reply that pointed out how bad the then chosen name was and offered Ambiguously Religious as an alternative.
Just because nobody who was active on the draft had a problem with the name doesn't excuse it from being a bad name. And just because it was launched under that name gives said name more priority than a better name.
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Ambiguous Religions sounds just like Church of Saint Genericus to me.
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Bump for Walpurgisnacht.
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I'm good for it as a Useful Notes entry.
Please tell me if this isn't the appropriate forum for this:
I've been going on a ZCE-commenting-and-inappropriate-example-nuking spree on Sekaikei Genre, and I ended up with two straight examples (Life Is Strange and Nights of Azure). Does this mean that the trope needs to be sent back to YKTTW to gather context from people who know the genre and works in question better?
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On Walpurgisnacht: Bouken Dutch said that there had been enough hats to justify the launch the draft. I know otherwise that there had been no full consensus that it was ready to launch. It was Up For Grabs, yes, but it didn't say it was ready to launch.
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Blapper of Water
Sekaikei Genre is from pre-2011, so I think it is too old for this thread or to be sent back. Also, I'm pretty sure most of our genre trope/index pages have examples listed like that? I see you've already mentioned this in the ZCE thread, but I'm not particularly convinced the genre index-trope-things normally have context unless there's something particularly weird about the work's placement there...
Blapper of Water
Perusing the namespace count list and found Fanime.Gay Plant Anime. Other than the obviously wrong namespace, it looks like it is a brand new roleplay. It was created by boppybots, and I sent a namespace notifier. I am not very familiar to our rules concerning new roleplays. wdyt
LiveActionTV.Wizbit needs indexing and other work. Creator was sent a namespace notifier.
Edit (3/25; I don't want to triple post when little time has past):
- Characters.Personcharacters: Seems to be a very new webcomic. The quality of the comic isn't so important to me, personally, but since it is so new, I'd like to know what other people think. Obviously, this page is in the wrong namespace (Web Comic/).
- I have sent the creator a namespace notifier because, even though this seems like a gray area for "extant work," it is a clear case of "wrong namespace."
- Untalentedchild.Personcharacters: Seems to be trying to be a Creator/ page. No notifier sent for this page.
- Universes.Personcharacters: Seems to be trying to be a second Characters/ page. No notifier sent for this page.
edited 25th Mar '17 11:54:12 AM by WaterBlap
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Somebody launched Heritage Disconnect. It appeared as launched, yet the page is empty.
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This Index Broke Up has, imo, a name problem. I brought it up in the comment section but the sponsor said "Those tropes are covered under Breaking And Destruction Tropes," which didn't address my concern at all. Note that not even 24 hours had passed from the time I brought up my concern to the time of launch.
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Firewithinmega at Characters.Character Customization with just lol on it
That page has been filled up.
Blapper of Water
Issue was resolved in ATT here.
Analysis.Visual Novel doesn't seem to have much in the way of analysis
Yeah...I'd file that under "misuse of namespace" (and that's being charitable). It looks like a half baked Self-Demonstrating at best, and at worst spam by someone who doesn't get the site. Cutlisting.
Lost in Space
It's that user's first edit, so a PM might also be in order.
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I'll check for that sort of thing in future, but I can't do it now since the page (and thus its history) are obviously already gone.
I put Main.Useful Notes Pocahontas on the cutlist. I believe the correct folder on Useful Notes is "People." If you're asking about indexing in general, you could also try Historical Domain Character. You should also ask the indexing thread.
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