All Purpose Super Robot Wars Fanfiction Thread

I've wanted to see Megas, Sym Bionic Titan, and even Giant Dext-Robo appear, personally.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Megas can really work since it's a homage to SRW IIRC. Dexter's own robots is a surely good one that I wanna see.

Heck, even Marvel's early adaptation of Combattler and Daimos too.

Speaking of Marvel robots, I want Leopardon, dammit. I wanna see Spidey fighting Tallgeese in his personal robot/spaceship.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Yes, that's a deconstruction of the Ordinary High-School Student, and is in line with how NGE went towards its endgame.

However, do note that there is a period - between the Fifth Angel and the Twelfth Angel - where Shinji actually gets into his groove and is becoming confident, even courageous. Recall that this is the kid who a) readily prepared to stop a walking nuclear reactor from annihilating an innocent city, b) kept his eye on the ball and his mind on the mission when he had to copilot Unit-02 in its debut, c) jumped into a goddamn volcano without hesitation to save his comrade in the next fight right after that, and d) managed to acheive pretty decent teamwork with both his comrades during the engagement after that.

Really, his Character Development probably would've been somewhere between Noriko and Amuro if things had kept going in that direction. Instead, he was hit with Leliel, Bardiel, and Zeruel right after another, went catatonic from fusing with Unit-01, and by the time he came back one of his four friends was also catatonic from Arael, his two guy friends evacuated (one of whom was gravely hurt during the Bardiel/Unit-03 incident), and then his last remaining friend pulls a Heroic Sacrifice and miraculously returns... but she's almost unrecognizable.

Then Kaworu, and GNR/K...

Really, everything is up to interpretation, but I believe that mid-series Shinji could definitely handle a Super Robot War. Especially if The Power of Friendship from the likes of Noriko, Guy, etc. occasionally reinforced his mental state.

There is a deconstructive route that can be taken, yes. I acknowledge that. But that's not the route I'd like to take. I want the route where, even if a single man breaks under the strain of his battles, he's not alone, and his friends can back him up.

Ominae: non-Jap-franchises: Actually, I've briefly toyed with the idea of throwing in Power Rangers and Transformers. 'Cos really, a chance to have Optimus Prime and the classic Megazord on the same battlefield as Gao Gai Gar and the Burning Gundam? Hells yeah!

Oh yeah, just remembered another series I might throw in to that SRW idea I had - The Brave Express Might Gaine. 'Cos Author Appeal.

edited 22nd May '13 5:24:21 PM by EvaUnit01

Transformers has its Japanese origins, but yeah. It's interesting to see Prime fight with Gao Gai Gar for instance.

Bonus points if it's Transformers Cybertron (admittedly one of the Japanese-produced anime timelines, but who cares?)

Burning Justice all the way, baby!

I still think it takes away the effects of Shinji's arc if the EV As are put into a team of actually emotionally stable pilots. Shinji's got this big journey of emotional discovery he hasn't made yet, and Asuka's sanity relies on her being the best. If either of them bluescreened, it'd take more than a group pep-talk to pull them back.

Interesting fact: I've been toying around with Optimus in Super Robot Wars... sort of.

See, the guy I shamelessly self-inserted as a squadron commander pilots Convoy, Optimus' non-sentient Japanese forerunner. Yep, it's Diaclone, not Transformers. When it comes time for mid-series upgrades, he gets the Powered Convoy armor, better known here as Ultra Magnus.

edited 22nd May '13 7:22:06 PM by maxwellelvis

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Just had the thought of a one-shot only using multi-pilot Combiners.

Combattler, Voltes, Getter, Go Lion, Dancougar, Gurren Lagann...

Any others of note that I missed?

Dairugger, Super Sentai/Power Ranger stuff, Aquarion, Dexter's Lab does have Dexter and family piloting vehicles to do gattai.

Dairugger, Dairugger.... oh, didn't that get adapted into Voltron season 2 or something?

Yep. Dairugger's much more known to countries that have seen in English as a part of the Voltron series.

I know I did.

Hrm... maybe throw in (new topic, unrelated to previous posts) Monsters Vs Aliens? At least, Ginormica and Insectosaurus could be usable allied units, to speak of it in gameplay terms.

...

Actually, a Kaiju equivalent of SRW might be pretty interesting.

Godzilla and the rest of Toho, Gamera, Monsters Vs Aliens for the aforementioned Ginormica + Insectorsaurus.

That's if it'll be there though.

edited 26th May '13 5:15:52 PM by Ominae

Asuras Wrath and it's Cyborg Demigods could fit in Super Robot Wars.

Hell, if alberto the shockwave can get in, why not them?

Watch Symphogear

Remind me who Alberto the Shockwave is? (have only had the chance to play OG, J, and W)

Still, given how they let Tekkaman Blade and Detonator Orgun in, yeah, Asuras Wrath could probably be worked into it.

Giant Robo character, one of the Magnificent 10.

Watch Symphogear

Ah.

Y'know, after reading Devilman vs. Getter Robo, I'm pretty sure Devilman could be worked into a Super Robot Wars game.

'Course, Detonator Orgun and Tekkaman Blade get a pass for at least involving mecha (Pegas, in Blade's case) and sort-of being Powered Armor.

Devilman only features Humanoid Abomination + Eldritch Abomination.

Still, might be pretty cool to have Devil-Getter face off against the titular Eldritch Abomination from Shin Mazinger Zero.

Throw in some Evangelions, you've got yourself a certified mess.

About the Eva don't fit into SRW debate... You could play it with the anime's original deconstructive tropes while playing the normal tropes straigh and doing some reconstruction along the way.

Imagine it like this. Normal, socially stunted kid is forced to pilot giant robot(?) to keep giant monsters from destroying the world (people don't bother telling him how). While he do that, wars break out around the world, outside it, etc. At some point he help/is helped by some other people who are in similar situation to his, discover that he is not alone in his blight.

Then come the sucky part. With the grwing conflict among human factions going on it is inevitable he and his recently made, monster fighting comrades would be drawn into it as well. Maybe some would atack the city he was sopposed to protect or he would be sent to help in some other location. Either way, he end up facing fellow humans on the battlefield. One thing lead to another, the kid end up taking a life or more and feel like he is the most despicable thing on the face of the Earth for it. The people who notice try to help saying he did the right thing/what he had to do/his duty and shouldn't feel bad for it. Of course, grumpy mood or not, there are still giant monsters to kill, so the kid get back on the 40/80 meter tall death machine anyway.

Problem is, wrecked with guilt as the kid was, he didn't really hear what others had to say beyond "it's alright". Being involved into further conflict doesn't help. Then things he had no control over make his life even more of a clusterfuck, at wich point, after a particularly nasty battle, he snap. After fighting so many times with a reality defying death machine, the kid become far too powerfull and skilled to be stopped by the normal safety measures set in place, wich mean his allies would have to put him down.

Miraculously (not for him) he survives and feel all the worst for it. At that point he would be so out there that he wouldn't want anything else to do with giant robots ever again. Leaving whatever mess is left up to clean for his allies, he would want nothing more than run away and never look back after his time on a jail cell on the Geofront is up.

Then come a Zaruel like situation (maybe not actually with big Z) in wich the enemy is too strong for the good guys. Knwoing the implications, the kid want nothing of it, refusing to be dragged into that madness again. While the battle rages on somewhere else, someone decides to talk with the kid for a little, not from the NGE supporting cast (those people fail too much with social rolls), someone who actually have a long, nice chat with the kid about normal stuff instead of just wanting him to pilot the damm robot.

It's in that moment, that painfully long yet escruciatingly short moment of peace that brings the kid the realization that even tough he did something terrible, even tough he got hurt, even tough he hurt others, there were also good things that came from it, that those things were worht protectingk, worth getting hurt, and that those things were in danger right now. After some close calls, the kid do get back into the robot, not because he have to, but because he wants to. Not because the world would burn if he didn't, but because the things he know and love would burn along with it.

It is at that moment decides that he will fight and will live. And that if he have to fight a world ending conspiracy or two to get his happy ending, then so be it.

That's a lot more complicated than I think it needs to be. The way I see it, either actually do some deconstructing or don't bother with EVA.

I did, however, think of a better way for my idea; rather than Shinji quitting after destroying a battleship, he's in a heated battle with an enemy commander. The enemy mech has EVA Unit-01's shoulders pinned, and the commander is taunting Shinji with that little picture-in-picture screen from Gundam. Shinji manages to get his knife and stabs the mecha right in the cockpit, mortally wounding the pilot. As the screens were still linked, Shinji gets to see, up close, the dying man's last gasps for air as life leaves his body. It hits Shinji then, and he loses his will to continue fighting any more.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

I'm a little torn. I can kinda see your point, but I also think that Eva Unit has a point about Shinji development.

He was getting better, becoming genuinely heroic. If he was among people who could help him develop positively, there's no reason for him to fall to pieces as badly as he did in series.

Even if he did decide he didn't want to pilot anymore, he might still find a way to help from the sidelines if he can be convinced to do so.

Why must the poor bastard be emotionally crushed to a pulp every time. Why can he win just once in some way?

One Strip! One Strip!

Thats becasue Evangelion works under Rule of Suffering. No, seriously, most of the stuff that happen would go pear shaped at the least breeze unless you admit the author was purposely putting the character trough the meat grinder. SRW punched that little fact in the balls and worked out something resembling a happy ending.

And, frankly, sticking to those grimderp themes when the other themes in play here involve punching the enemies of humanity in the face with fists glowing witl all your love, your anger and your sorrow sounds foolish.

Now for something completely different, I notice that few people focus on it in their fics, but with so many (argueably) sci-fi settings put together you run into the fact that there are different thech levels to put togheter as well as the fact that some of those thecnologies don't play nice with others. Most Gundams fuck up with targeting systems and the very concept of Knightmares only work because of the subtle application of Schizo Tech in the setting, for exemple.

Then there are those that do play nice with others. Better energy sources (plus some other things) can extend a Eva's operational time without a umbilical cable considerably. Putting some force fields and lazer blades on Mazinger Z. Giving people other options to current problems that don't involve putting all resources you have in a one-of-a-kind machine piloted by a alien. It's agreed by some that a normal artillary would tear Knightmares to shreds in no time.

Then there is world building, what does a infraestructure capable of sustaining freaking giant robots means to the ignorant masses? What kind of crazy thech is avaliable to the avarage citzen in a world where there are cyborgs, santient A.I.'s, nanomachines, over a dozen miraculous energy sources, space travel is a thing and all the other stuff? How does that affect the upbringing of characters that in their original setting lived in world Twenty Minutesintothe Future that is actually the same as ours but with giant robots?

edited 25th Jun '13 6:45:03 AM by minusmagniaxe

On the sidelines, sure. In some non-combat supporting role, probably where Shinji can be as far of Unit-01 as possible. The best I can promise is he has an extended epiphany like the last two episodes of his show.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Hell, even without a positive reliable support group, just give the kid more than a week - say, a few months or so - to recover from the last soul-crushing tragedy before putting him through the next one and he'll do better than he did in canon.

Ponder what you're saying here. Do you really want to think about what would happen if you tried to power an Evangelion with, say, Getter Rays? ... Wait a sec, Getter!Asuka would actually be pretty bitchin' awesome. I withdraw my objection.

Anyway, I've gotten to play SRW Alpha now. FINALLY (I hope) at the point where I can bring out EVA-01 to wreck shit whenever I like.

If I ever write one, I'll make sure to avoid Evangelion as a franchise.

edited 27th Jun '13 4:24:08 PM by Ominae

Just cross over Evangelion with Brain Powerd and you'll have hilarity of the Peachi level ensue.

Neither goony beard-men nor rainbow-haired she-twinks will stand in the way of my dreams!