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TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#6876: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:49:41 PM

No. I believe it was brought up before and rejected, but even than it isn't half as bad as some other stuff that's been discussed.

And I've read through the entire manga and I don't remember any grade-schooler.

edited 6th Jul '12 2:50:16 PM by TheFoxsCloak

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#6877: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:03:17 PM

Well, there's Yami. But she's a shapeshifting alien who most definitely doesn't behave like a child.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#6878: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:04:36 PM

There's also Mikan, but she had some of the least amount of fanservice. By the way, both manga are Shounen manga.

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#6879: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:11:53 PM

I don't see where To Love Ru was discussed before, according to the PPPPP thread.

I'm not familiar with the series, so I can't say whether it should be flagged or not. If you've seen it and think some of the fanservice is problematic, go ahead and we'll take a look at it when we can.

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Marche90 Since: Nov, 2009
#6880: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:12:31 PM

About To Love Ru... Mikan might be the cause of trouble here (for those not remembering it, she is about 12-13), and it's worse once we take into account Darkness. I find funny the irony that the one with a better plot is also the main cause of concern for this board, if only because they decided to finally draw the characters without Censor Steam, Godiva Hair or other tricks.

Now, changing the topics a little bit, the one I'm thinking it might be worth flagging for discussion is Hoshizora no Memoria . As much as I liked some of the routes (both of the twins, for example. I absolutely loved the character of Komomo and the Kosame route was also decent), I don't think that the routes of Chinami and Mare (also, throw in the Isuzu's route, for good measure) will pass under the current policies. Try looking for the images in Google Search, but have a bottle of Brain Bleach available.

Edit, to elaborate: Isuzu's is the least problematic here, since she is more or less "mature" (I can't find another word to describe it, because it isn't quite right) in her mindset, but her body is very undeveloped. Chinami, she isn't much about her body, but rather, her personality. Incredibly childish. The worst offender here is Mare, since, although her route is the last one to unlock, she also has a totally undeveloped, childish body, and her personality isn't that much better

edited 6th Jul '12 3:21:28 PM by Marche90

TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#6881: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:14:53 PM

I just remember it being mentioned off-hand and dismissed. But that could very well just be me not remembering correctly.

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#6882: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:18:59 PM

GIS'ing No Memoria + chinami gives me a load of pornographic / explicit sex with penises and all that material. Of people that look like girls (with breasts though, so they would probably be teenagers)

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Marche90 Since: Nov, 2009
#6883: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:22:22 PM

[up]Dang, no Futanari here, I assure you. I've read the damn thing (I hate that, in fact), maybe it isn't the right game you found...

Might have to search a CG set, working on it right now. Elaborated a bit more about why I considered the flagging.

edited 6th Jul '12 3:25:01 PM by Marche90

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#6884: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:25:38 PM

Flagged Memoria. With images like this one (porn warning!) I can't see why not.

hxxp://konachan.com/post/show?md5=aabe13e7926275d3aab2f4018e71c0ea

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Marche90 Since: Nov, 2009
#6885: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:28:42 PM

[up]Lol, one of the least problematic characters (the shot wasn't that beneficial, since her paperdoll makes her look more mature), and in fact that character is older than the MC

Oh, well. My concern here is about these three characters (search in the screenshots) Mare appears in the first screenshot, Chinami is the one with pink hair and Isuzu is the character that appears in the last screenshot

hxxp://vndb.org/v1474

edited 6th Jul '12 3:33:10 PM by Marche90

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#6886: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:30:30 PM

[up][up] ... Huh. It's devilhead time, everybody.

edited 6th Jul '12 3:31:09 PM by Komodin

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#6887: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:45:34 PM

That To Love Ru show? It's hard to keep clean. I cleaned it personally back in the no lewdness days. It's semi clean now, but..

edited 6th Jul '12 3:47:43 PM by animeg3282

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#6888: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:47:57 PM

I've played that game. Mare is a Shana Clone. She's petite, flat-chested, and a violent tsundere, but not a kid.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#6889: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:48:11 PM

It's seems rash to devil head over that one picture. She doesn't even look very young there given that she has breasts.

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#6890: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:49:29 PM

[up]There are other similar pictures out there. I just flagged it.

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#6891: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:50:32 PM

How old is this girl supposed to be? She's not a 13 year old is she!? *is just mad that my cache now needs cleaned*

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#6892: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:51:06 PM

I'm talking to Komodin, who's implying he devil headed it over that one picture.

Marche90 Since: Nov, 2009
#6893: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:52:15 PM

[up][up] Nope. Even in universe and taking into account the Vague Age of a lot of visual novels, she is still around 18. The thing with her is that she's an Ill Girl.

As I said, he choose to use one of the least problematic characters (in fact, my guess is that he jumped the gun on that one character, tbh, the art style is like that)

But, Mare?... Jeez, I won't deny that she might be a Shana Clone... but it is hard no to judge her with that body. Plus, Chinami... There's a reason why I didn't liked her route, her personality is amazingly childish D:

edited 6th Jul '12 3:57:26 PM by Marche90

Roraborialis Rorabrialis Since: Jul, 2011
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#6894: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:53:16 PM

Isn't it the sequel to TLR that got flagged as 18+, I've run through To Love Ru quickly once, and for the manga I remember the fanservice being directed at the older characters mostly. I could run through Darkness (I looked at it when there were 3 chapters translated, and was somewhat freaked out from being nipple and dimed rather frequently,) and give a review, but it is a totally different work, having a much more prominent plot and almost ignoring about most of the first series cast in honor of the old minor characters according to the old descriptions.

I would probably limit the page to tropes regarding the first series, based on the Mangas. The animes are supposedly slightly worse about censoring themselves then the manga, but remain centered on the older characters (Based on three episodes of getting frustrated by the entire camera needing censor steam/beams of light almost once per episode. Well, I guess it is censored if it has the beams of light, but its rather silly how often the effect is needed.)

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#6895: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:58:05 PM

Nope. Even in universe and taking into account the Vague Age of a lot of visual novels, she is still around 18.

... Okay, I'm confused now. Is there any pedo-pandering content in the work?

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#6896: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:59:50 PM

These are apparently all the game's CG's, so judge for yourself (NSFW).

http://konachan.com/pool/show/57

Marche90 Since: Nov, 2009
#6897: Jul 6th 2012 at 4:01:59 PM

[up][up] That one character are the operative words here, sorry if that wasn't clear. To put it in another way, she is the oldest (human) heroine in the game, age-wise

edited 6th Jul '12 4:03:05 PM by Marche90

TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#6898: Jul 6th 2012 at 4:02:59 PM

[up][up]The pink-haired and long-silver-haired girls are damning enough, really.

edited 6th Jul '12 4:03:21 PM by TheFoxsCloak

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#6899: Jul 6th 2012 at 4:04:24 PM

Re: To Love Ru: The first series is probably okay; most of the fanservice is of the older characters and the worst Mikan gets is some innuendo. The sequel series is a lot more questionable; it averts Barbie Doll Anatomy (including Mikan, if I remember correctly). It's not quite porn, but it's really close in some places, and the pedo aspects of it are worth worrying over.

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TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#6900: Jul 6th 2012 at 4:05:47 PM

I'll reiterate that it's most definitely shounen and the characters are all within the expected age-range of the readers.


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