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Deadlock Clock: May 24th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#26: Jul 10th 2012 at 11:29:13 PM

I think the word you're looking for is "folklore", not "fable". Cinderella is not a fable. Little Red Riding Hood is not a fable. The Three Bears is not a fable.

In any case, I fail to see a meaningful distinction. First off, we have at least three versions of the Epic of Gilgamesh. The Bhagavid-Gita has several variations, as it was deliberately maintained as part of an oral, religious tradition until recently. We also have recent folklore (e.g., the man who wakes up with his kidneys missing) that has been retold far less often, with far less variation than the plays of Shakespeare.

I don't believe that folklore/fable/whatever is a meaningful or useful distinction. Some stories are well-known, and get retold a lot. Some are not so well-known, and don't get retold as often. I don't think the question of whether there's an "official" original version has any effect on that. But I've said my piece, so I'll let others chime in.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#27: Jul 11th 2012 at 8:06:54 AM

Granted, the plot wasn't original to him, so you could maybe think of it as a fable in a broad sense, but modern version are treating him as the original.

Hang on, now it sounds like you're defining a "fable" as anything deriving from an unknown source. A fable is a quite specific genre — according to Wikipedia, "a succinct fictional story, in prose or verse, that features animals, mythical creatures, plants, inanimate objects or forces of nature which are anthropomorphized ... and that illustrates or leads to an interpretation of a moral lesson". Occasionally the term is used to include any Fairy Tale. But as pointed out above, there are plenty of works that have no "official" version (I'd add Robin Hood and King Arthur to the list) which are by no stretch of the imagination "fables"; conversely, Animal Farm or Peter Rabbit could be described as modern fables but have absolutely certain origins.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#28: Jul 14th 2012 at 4:23:55 PM

Aren't both green options the same thing?

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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#29: Jul 14th 2012 at 5:18:41 PM

[up]They have the same result. One includes an incorrect claim about the trope in question, though (it's not actually limited to fables). I assume that's why we have both. Seems harmless unless people start arguing about which one should really win. :)

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#30: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:34:30 AM

Does raise the question of whether we can add the results togetheras votes for "merge".

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#31: Jul 15th 2012 at 11:38:58 AM

[up]Unless the pattern of voting changes drastically, I don't think it matters whether we say "this one won", or "both won". If either wins, the results are the same.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#32: Jul 15th 2012 at 2:28:49 PM

I don't mean they only have the same result, I mean they are the same action exactly: merge FR into WPR. The arguments are different. Crowner options shouldn't have arguments in them anyway.

edited 15th Jul '12 2:30:08 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#33: Jul 15th 2012 at 11:41:30 PM

I only mean that if we add together the votes for each of the two "merge" options, it's something like 19 to one. Only problem with that is we don't know how many are the same people voting up both options.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#34: Jul 16th 2012 at 11:12:55 AM

[up]Again, it doesn't matter. Either one is in a position to win, and they both prescribe the same action. No, we shouldn't add the votes together, but fortunately, that's irrelevant in this particular case.

It does mean that we don't really have to wait to pick a clear winner between the two options, since they're basically the same. In fact, we can probably call this crowner any time now.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#35: Jul 27th 2012 at 10:49:19 AM

Calling crowner: Merge Fable Remake into Whole-Plot Reference.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#36: Sep 21st 2012 at 11:13:28 AM

Still waiting on action here.

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#37: Sep 21st 2012 at 12:30:56 PM

And ... done.

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