Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in this thread.
Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:52:14 PM
Decoy
Conservative Christians then should not vaccinate themselves, be receivers of organ transplantations, et cetera. Maybe that would hasten their decline. 
He Who Got Gud
- Is a Conservative Christian who supports gay marriage, transexuality, and vaccinations*
You meant bigoted Conservative Christians.
The most edgy person on the Internet.
The Mod with the Migraine
Family members booted from church for supporting their gay daughter
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scratching at .8, just hopin'
It's really hard not to respond with "and nothing of value was lost". Why would you want to stay with those asshats?
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
vicarious
So out of curiosity, what Christian denominations are friendly toward LGBT rights and people? Or at least personal churches, having just looked at my own father's denomination and seeing how conflicted that is.
Well, here's a list of the ones that don't consider it a sin at all. There are a few others who are sort of ok with it.
We really need more people willing to respond to an organization going "support out bigoted belief or get kicked out" with "Well, fuck your shit".
In uffish thought
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Because church is life, family, community, support, and guidance, even though in those things it may break you. And it can be very hard to recognise a houseful of asshats when they are asshats you've come to love and trust. And it can be very hard to leave a houseful of asshats when they're loving and trustworthy in other areas.
He Who Got Gud
"Your sexuality doesn't matter" the Pope
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3878617?utm_hp_ref=tw
That sentiment would seem to be at odds with the Church's position on marriage equality. Not that I'm complaining- baby steps, after all.
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scratching at .8, just hopin'
You don't have to tell us Papa, tell those guys over there who are denying LGBTQ people service at Catholic hospitals.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Mikon :3
Where is this going on?
If it's true, then that's good.
If the church says that it's okay to at least be gay if not act gay, then that's big progress for Catholicism.
I'd like to note that the Bible calls homosexual actions sin, not homosexual feelings.
Electric Heart
So, it's alright to be gay; you just have to be celibate?
Mikon :3
"What the Bible says" and "what Christians say" aren't always the same thing.
scratching at .8, just hopin'
Though, to the credit of Catholic hospitals, this is in 2013.
Or suppress it and act straight.
Mikon :3
If that doctor had targeted any other group, their career would be over. Sometimes I think we're too nice for our own good.
edited 6th Sep '13 5:57:26 PM by Morgikit
Gay Panthers...?
Mikon :3
More like make sure the "doctor's" tendency to neglect their duties is well known, making it much harder for them to find work.
In uffish thought
Ramuf: That is the common line.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
My son, the eldest, was invited to a local church. He tried to politely decline the invite but the girl was rather persistent.
After several invites over several days, she finally asked him why he wouldn't go with her.
He told her he has no desire to go to church and is quite happy to go to hell because then he would be with the only parents he had ever had that loved him.
I rejoice in the progress we are making in social acceptance. And I do feel there is progress. However as with any social evolution, those retaining the less desirable dogma will dig their heels in tighter. Take this with economic instability and military action becoming more commonplace in too many areas, it is going to be an interesting time to see how social norms and mental health continues as religious communities struggle to decide where they want to develop.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
Indiana Solo
May I ask what branch the Church was of?
I didn't ask. I personally think it's irrelevant.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
It amuses me that the "Endless power to recreate yourself" is considered sinful in this context.
And that they considered trans* people "Undisciplined". As if any of them are willing to deal with years of surgery and hormones and a lifetime of having life shit on you, just to feel like yourself.
Apparently, we're supposed to accept ourselves as God made us.
It is now morally wrong to exercise.