Image changed without consensus: Painting The Medium

@Kenshinta,

That is Imagine Spotting not this.

Painting the Fourth Wall is "user interface, camera tricks, etc. convey things about the story." It is changes to the fourth wall that affect (or say stuff about) things inside the walls. The "old" OOTS image (the one in the OP) seems like the best in this thread.

I changed my mind: that is a bad image. It depicts two tropes—Painting the Fourth Wall (the demon's black-and-red speech bubble) in the top frame, and Breaking the Fourth Wall (Elan whispering about it) in the bottom—which is confusing.

edited 20th Feb '12 1:34:33 AM by rodneyAnonymous

The awkward thing is that I can come up with a whole bunch of great examples that would work...but all of them fit better in the subtropes.

The current image fits better on the subtrope too; we just haven't split off that subtrope yet.

edited 29th Jan '12 5:30:46 PM by troacctid

We're looking for a version that doesn't break the fourth wall? So just a version of the current picture without lampshading would work?

edited 21st Feb '12 12:01:57 AM by abk0100

Carnival barker/ringmaster character speaks in circus posters◊

Someone in another thread suggested an image of a videogame using the 'blood on the screen' effect that many games currently use to convey damage.

That would not make a good image.

That's covered by one of the subtropes, Camera Abuse.

edited 23rd Feb '12 11:13:55 AM by troacctid

Not Camera Abuse, which involves something physically affecting the camera, not the camera conveying something actually having the characteristics of your avatar. The "bleeding" screen shows you are injured by creating a literal red haze. my suggestion was a split-screen showing before-and-after.

Before-and-after pics are usually the wrong way to go if it's something you can express as a single pic.

I don't object to the "gaze into the face of fear one", but after the discussion on the trope itself in TRS I am planning on launching a YKTTW specifically about visual inflections in text, especially speech balloons. That may be relevant if you are planning on avoiding subtrope specific versions.

The OOTS picture is horrendous. I'd support no pic over that overcomplicated mess.

I got rid of the OOOT picture. This is a case where it really is misleading in a harmful way. The trope's being renamed partially so that people stop confusing it with Medium Awareness and other Breaking the Fourth Wall tropes, and the picture isn't helping.

I'm good with Troacctid's suggestion◊, at least for now.

edited 24th Feb '12 2:04:26 AM by abk0100

I've just found a different OotS example which I'm possibly going to tweak to fit. (And, look pretty.) But, I thought I'd give a heads up using the full page, first.

I'm probably going to mess with panels 7-9.

Possible caption: "Behold! The awesome power of differently coloured speech bubbles!"

Note: I'll tweak at some point during the rest of the week.

edited 14th Mar '12 6:29:36 PM by Euodiachloris

Good example, but not a good image I don't think. Doesn't say anything about the speech bubbles or why they might not be white.

Maybe panels 4-5? But not sure.

A potential image source: Understanding Comics should have plenty of Conversed examples, as it explores comics as a medium.

Post 30 looks good to me.

I suggest a page from The Order of the Stick that would have several different-colored bubbles. For example, one or both of the first two panels of #646 (4 different colors on first panel, 3 on second).

Possible caption may involve Color-Coded for Your Convenience.

Also, I found the Pogo image rather non-obvious: my first thought was that it was some poster or title card, rather than a speech bubble.

edited 24th Mar '12 12:17:12 PM by OneMore

I kinda like the Pogo image. The lettering is very obvious, with or without caption, and it doesn't have the fourth wall issue.

Perhaps this?

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>_>

edited 24th Mar '12 10:04:04 PM by Oroboro

From #30:

Regarding my OOTS suggestion, here they are. I had to edit them to remove extraneous bubbles, and I think someone who can actually edit images would do better.

edited 24th Mar '12 11:04:54 PM by OneMore

Bump. Any thoughts on my images?

I really like 46, much more than Oot S. It's a good image whilst very unusual.

That may be the only Pogo pic I've seen on the wiki, so I think I'll support it.