Example Sectionectomy?: Fanon Discontinuity

I noticed that the sub pages for Fanon Discontinuity are black, but the article in main. Is it Flame Bait or not?

Fanon Discontinuity is a trope. The page has no examples, it merely links to where the examples are. The examples are flamebait, not the trope, as far as I understand it.

Someone feel free to correct me.

edited 16th Jul '11 1:49:21 PM by Unknownlight

It's not exactly Flame Bait but it is heavily dependant on personal opinion and is not a broad fandom observation like They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. Things on Darth Wiki are basically the extreme side of subjective tropes that allow tropers to add examples as much as they want, while white background YMMV tropes have a bit more regulation to them.

I'd say "concept isn't flamebait, examples are" on this one, though could be wrong.

Fanon Discontinuity is an Audience Reaction unless I missed something.

I agree with the others. The page itself is just defining the concept. The examples are Flame Bait and should be kept entirely off the main wiki.

Why? It has value to the concept of the series that fans say that this or that Joe Quesada's screw up didn't happen. In particular if that ends up affecting how later works are written.

Running the Asylum, Armed with Canon - these are the "tropes" for when it affects the story. Simply saying "fans pretend Plotline X didn't happen" doesn't really tell us anything except that the guy who wrote the entry hates Plotline X. As someone mentioned earlier on the thread, this isn't really one of those cases where there's a legitimate majority opinion.

Agreed. The only fandom I'm really a part of is Battle Royale and that's certainly a good example of where Fanon Discontinuity exists in the form of flamewars between fans of each of the three versions. Typically, most people will like the novel, but they'll prefer either the manga or the film. Almost never both, and the other will be considered So Bad Its Horrible in most cases.

The arguments go in circles, flamewars are the usual outcome, "agree to disagree" what happens when everyone is sick of the fighting for a while.

If this is the case, it needs the Flame Bait banner.

Not true. Flame bait is something that starts fights is flame bait. There are people who take things as Fandom Heresy, but those people tend to get banned.

^About...what?

So...you don't consider things that lead to heated arguments to be flame bait?

I'm for the concept, but having this trope with examples is something that could be just done on a blog. And I cannot see how the examples won't lead to Flame Bait as is.

I don't see why we should care what people think is Canon as is. It's not even an Audience Reaction so much as people throwing their opinions on stuff they don't like. Go read a blog or a review for that.

Seriously, if they let me hang around despite my utter loathing of Shakespeare, they'll let you stay for hating something popular as long as you're not a dick about it.

The thing is, Fanon Discontinuity is a purely negative trope. There is nothing positive about it.

Atleast with Canon Discontinuity, it's just Word of God stating facts.

I know both can lead to Flame Bait, but we don't condone complaint threads either anyway. Atleast not in the Video Game Forum section. So why would we condone people stating that they don't believe something should exist, when it's essentially complaining in a nicer way.

edited 31st Jul '11 7:14:54 PM by Hydronix

Disagreeing with opinions is fine. What is not fine is presenting opinions as fact, or in such a way as to intentionally incite people to argue with you. People doing this will be banned.

Now that is flamebait!

Anyway, Fanon Discontinuity can most certainly provoke a flamewar. I don't know if that is enough to label it Flame Bait.

I'm still in favor of cutting this. I mean, Fanon at least has some merit since it acts as a fridge logic thing to explain it. That it's commonly Ascended just helps that. Whether or not they consider it canon because they like to rage is too far off mission in my mind.

I don't think it should be cut, just the examples. We're acknowledging that people will do this no matter what. It doesn't mean we will condone it on the wiki. We don't condone rape, but we still have tropes related to it.

The only thing Flame Bait-related we've cut is simply if it does nothing but make fun of people. Atleast, to my knowledge.

On topic, I see no need to cut it but it does make for some of the dumbest arguments in all of fandom.