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terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object
#378876: Dec 6th 2021 at 4:07:46 PM

One less jerkwad out of California. Now we just need to get Kevin Mc Carthy out (hopeful thinking on my part).

Edited by terumokou on Dec 6th 2021 at 4:11:35 AM

Burning love!
Brandon I'm watching you! from Wayouttatown, OR (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
I'm watching you!
#378877: Dec 6th 2021 at 4:17:00 PM

Isn't Nunes the guy who tried to start some feud with Stephen Colbert?

With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#378878: Dec 6th 2021 at 7:25:21 PM

@nova92: Ask and ye shall receive!

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#378879: Dec 6th 2021 at 7:28:57 PM

From what I understand, Nunes' district may end up shifting left during the redistricting, so perhaps that's why he's bowing out.

And hey, if he wants to leave Congress to join a doomed business endeavor, he's welcome to it.

Oh God! Natural light!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#378880: Dec 7th 2021 at 12:53:25 AM

Although if memory serves, the commission will be creating another highly Republican district just next door and I am not sure that they have a candidate for that one. So for Nunes to stay in Congress he would simply have to move a little.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#378882: Dec 7th 2021 at 1:11:06 PM

Biden have Putin have finished their meeting concerning the troop build up around Ukraine. Biden is going to meet with the European allies and then Ukraine's President Zelensky.

Rueters is saying the US has an understanding with Germany to shut down the Nordstream 2 pipeline in the event of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#378884: Dec 7th 2021 at 5:02:22 PM

So, where do things stand on Build Back Better?

Oh God! Natural light!
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#378885: Dec 7th 2021 at 5:27:48 PM

Manchin is still Manchin'ing.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#378886: Dec 7th 2021 at 5:29:46 PM

[up]That does not sound comforting.

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CommanderAce Commander Thor from Planet Earth, United States Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Commander Thor
#378887: Dec 7th 2021 at 7:59:42 PM

So I spotted this floating around, as it outlines how with the various anti-Trump Republicans getting primaried and a flood of pro-Trumpers flying to try to man voting positions, is this doomsaying or something else? I know this thread is not about doomsayers and as I keep seeing stuff about Trump running again, I’m at a loss as for stuff to look for to get out of spending my time obsessing over it.

Power of Thor!
Imca (Veteran)
#378888: Dec 7th 2021 at 10:57:15 PM

Its not doomsaying, its pretty much a known factor.

The old-anti trump republician days are done, they learned they get much better results by just saying the quiet part outloud.... so thats what there pivoting too.

To be honest, there is absolutely zero diffrence between them, so there is no need to worry about it, they both want EXACTLY the same thing, and have exactly the same policies....

Its just one tries to pretend to be civil, the other doesn't.... honestly the former is more dangerous since some people buy it.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#378889: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:13:19 PM

Those anti-Trump republicans are still around, they're just not in power.

Also, saying these groups want the exact same things is a massive oversimplification, and not even true either. Republicans are not a monolithic bloc: there are plenty of differences between various factions, some pretty big ones, too.

We had a poll about it in the thread a while ago, which gave a pretty clear overview of just how different republicans can be.

Optimism is a duty.
Imca (Veteran)
#378890: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:23:24 PM

No, at the end of the day they all want to enforce racist policies, fuck over women and the LGBT, the exact how doesn't mater.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#378891: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:25:27 PM

[up]Don't forget killing poor people too. Especially if there's overlap with the groups you mentioned.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#378892: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:25:49 PM

That's again oversimplifying things. Not all conservatives want to enact racist policies, for one thing.

Optimism is a duty.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#378893: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:27:50 PM

"We're different, we only want to overturn Roe v. Wade a little" doesn't really fly, no. Economic conservatism has been pretty soundly debunked (how's it going, Greece?), and social conservatism's end goal is to erode the health, safety, and comfort of millions upon millions of Americans.

Ronald Reagan let a generation of gay men die. Mainstream Republicans/conservatives have always been evil; the new breed are just a special brand of conspiracy-maddened.

It's been fun.
Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#378894: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:32:37 PM

I think Redmess meant conservatives in general, not the American literal bottom-of-the-barrel shitpiles we all know and loathe.

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Perseus from Australia Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#378895: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:33:25 PM

I cannot trust anyone who self-identifies as a Republican in this day and age. Simple as that.

Trans rights are human rights.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#378896: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:34:42 PM

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is the US Politics thread, not the general political spectrum thread. We're discussing American conservatives.

Edited by RedSavant on Dec 7th 2021 at 11:35:35 AM

It's been fun.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#378897: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:36:13 PM

Nowadays being a card carrying Republican means you're either a bigot, willfully ignorant of the bigotry, or the bigotry is not a deal-breaker for you if it means getting a tax cut or something.

I sometimes think the last group is worse than the open bigots.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#378898: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:46:25 PM

The majority of Republican voters are the middle one.

They're willfully ignorant because it doesn't affect them personally.

Simple as that.

We are talking about Americans here, after all. The people who've turned Willful Ignorance into an art form.

Edited by Pendrake on Dec 7th 2021 at 11:47:45 AM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#378899: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:51:54 PM

It's either "I believe in the evil they're enacting" or "the evil they're enacting isn't a dealbreaker for me". The pearl-clutching soccer mom who single-issue votes on abortion, the Nazi Spencer disciple, the r/libertarian who voted for Trump for the lulz, and the boomer who's voted Republican ever since he turned 21 because they're the "party of business" - they're all causing direct, measurable human suffering to people either because they want to or because they believe the benefits they reap outbalance the pain it causes others.

It's been fun.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#378900: Dec 7th 2021 at 11:56:07 PM

But they didn’t think the leopards eating people’s faces party would eat their face too.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

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