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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280801: May 15th 2019 at 3:08:33 PM

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/14/bernie-sanders-delivers-online-address-we-must-not-go-war-iran

Bernie says we musn't go to war with Iran.

Part of why I do like the guy.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280802: May 15th 2019 at 3:12:21 PM

Esquire magazine joins the ranks of the forum posters here who believe the Democrats are chickening out.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27481582/jerry-nadler-impeach-donald-trump-house-democrats/

They say Nadler is guaranteeing Trump's re-election.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#280803: May 15th 2019 at 3:53:27 PM

Bernie is saying that,and so is everyone else

Your (Bernie) not going to win me over unless his argument significantly better and his own instead of parroting everyone

Besides,I'm certain he has to have congress's approval to do something like this?

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#280804: May 15th 2019 at 3:57:38 PM

At this point, he actually doesn't. Something both parties actually are responsible for is handing too much war power over to the president.

Congress could pass a new bill telling Trump he can't engage Iran without their approval but who knows if that would ever pass.

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#280805: May 15th 2019 at 4:02:32 PM

Sounds like something where a bit of activism is needed,and if your a politician looking to get elected President that would be your que start making noise especially if you can channel the memory of the previous war

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280806: May 15th 2019 at 4:06:40 PM

Obama attempted to hand back power from the Executive but was blocked by his own party.

Congress could pass a new bill telling Trump he can't engage Iran without their approval but who knows if that would ever pass.

Well, Trump would Veto it and it would go to the Senate.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 15th 2019 at 4:07:30 AM

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280807: May 15th 2019 at 4:09:26 PM

[up] Obama didn’t hand back anything. He massively expanded presidential war powers, particularly ones tied to the 2001 AUMF.

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280808: May 15th 2019 at 4:10:23 PM

That isn't contradictory...

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#280809: May 15th 2019 at 4:13:49 PM

"Attempting to remove the citizenship of LGBT children"...

The actual fuck! I want to question if he could actually do that or if people will let him but after seeing what's already happened with this administration of fucking course he could!

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280810: May 15th 2019 at 4:15:27 PM

I’m getting the feeling we all forgot how aggressively the Obama admin expanded its war powers once Trump took office.

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280811: May 15th 2019 at 4:43:26 PM

No, I'm saying that Obama tried to roll it back and the Democrats told him to do the opposite.

I've also been very critical of the Obama administration's handling of power and war.

It's, in fact, my only criticism of Obama.

That and wasting a year trying to build bridges with the GOP who hated him for some nebulous indefinable part of his personage.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 15th 2019 at 4:44:29 AM

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#280812: May 15th 2019 at 4:49:48 PM

Ted Cruz says the US needs a Space Force because of space pirates: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/443923-ted-cruz-says-space-force-is-necessary-to-prevent-space-pirates

Someone's been playing too much Metroid.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#280813: May 15th 2019 at 4:52:56 PM

Or losing to Ridley in Smash.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280814: May 15th 2019 at 4:54:25 PM

[up][up][up] And that is what we call revisionist history.

The Obama administration continuously pushed the envelope of its war powers. Remember when he authorized JSOC to conduct “targeted applications of force”, or assassinations, in any country on earth they felt they needed to under the 2001 AUMF? Or when he ran around his own party in congress to expand his ability to conduct air strikes and drone strikes? The loosening of guidelines for said strikes to allow them to be carried out anywhere there’s even a suspicion of someone connected to terrorism? Expanding the US air war into Africa and the Philippines?

[1] [2] [3]

Keep in mind, I don’t consider much of this a bad thing. I believe the president should have robust war powers.

You’re sadly mistaken on the Obama admin’s record here though.

[up][up] The best part of all that is that having a space force really isn’t a bad idea, these are just its worst possible advocates.

Edited by archonspeaks on May 15th 2019 at 4:56:11 AM

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280816: May 15th 2019 at 5:03:54 PM

And all of that happened later.

But I really have no interest arguing the point.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#280817: May 15th 2019 at 5:07:28 PM

Pat Robertson is indisputably a theocratic reactionary but he seems to take his faith somewhat seriously even if his interpretation of it is grotesque. I remember him talking about trans people and from the way he spoke of them, while he clearly saw them as inferior, he still believed that their dysphoria and gender identities were valid.

At the same time he thinks the policy is illegitimate not because he disagrees with it but because he believes the Supreme Court is too liberal to accept it, which is Right for the Wrong Reasons.

Edited by AlleyOop on May 15th 2019 at 8:08:36 AM

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#280818: May 15th 2019 at 5:09:43 PM

[up][up] Because you have no evidence whatsoever to substantiate the point you’re making.

The only time Obama did anything like even try to rein in his war powers was after Trump got elected and he issued his guidelines for use of said powers, which Trump proceeded to ignore. Shifting blame from the Obama admin to the Democratic Party is a brazen attempt to cover up that administration’s massive and unilateral expansion of the President’s ability to wage war, and presumably an attempt to smear congressional Democrats in the process.

Edited by archonspeaks on May 15th 2019 at 5:09:53 AM

They should have sent a poet.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#280819: May 15th 2019 at 5:17:12 PM

It's certainly an unusual example of pragmatism from Robertson. "The Court would rather chip away Roe layer by layer than break it head-on, write your laws to that end."

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280820: May 15th 2019 at 5:17:23 PM

So, moving on, it seems that Trump is full steam ahead.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#280821: May 15th 2019 at 7:31:51 PM

Is the war in the Middle East going on? I want to know if George Bush Jr's fuck-up is still going on, I feel Trump makes people forget how bad he was as president

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280822: May 15th 2019 at 7:43:29 PM

Which war in the Middle East?

The Iraqis won their war against ISIS by themselves.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 15th 2019 at 7:43:51 AM

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#280823: May 15th 2019 at 8:15:57 PM

The Iraqis won their war against ISIS by themselves.

"By themselves", right.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#280824: May 15th 2019 at 8:16:59 PM

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Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 15th 2019 at 8:17:52 AM

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#280825: May 15th 2019 at 8:17:18 PM

Bluntly, the Russians did almost all the heavy lifting in turning ISIS back into a guerrilla force.

Edited by LeGarcon on May 15th 2019 at 11:17:26 AM

Oh really when?

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