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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33251: May 18th 2014 at 8:10:22 PM

Yeesh, I just realized that ADB is now over 250,000 words long.

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#33252: May 18th 2014 at 8:51:34 PM

Hey. Hey. Hey guise.

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#33254: May 19th 2014 at 12:38:00 PM

New story what needs proofing? I can give it a look-see when I return from camping.

Kurush from Stockholm Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Desperate
CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Bully in the Alley
#33256: May 19th 2014 at 12:52:04 PM

While I can understand people in this thread preferring prereaders that they are familiar with, leaving a chapter unedited is never a good idea. When no one responds to your request for editors that is usually a good sign to look elsewhere.

I have had very good experiences with the Proofreader Group—I get most of my editors there, and as long as you vet people before contacting them, getting a dud is very rare. While I use it less often, I have also had good experiences with WRITE—I haven't actually requested a review from them, but whenever I encounter a reviewer (either on someone else's story or in the PRG) they tend to be very thorough and capable.

No one in this thread has responded to my last 3 or 4 requests for editors (with the notable exception of Sereg)—I would encourage anyone who doesn't get a response here to try some new avenues for advice.

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#33257: May 19th 2014 at 1:20:30 PM

[up]Yeah, I'm sorry I haven't gotten a chance to look over anything lately. I'm having enough trouble keeping up with my own writing, and I don't want to offer help to anybody else and then not be able to do it.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#33258: May 19th 2014 at 1:33:51 PM

This is from the Ponies With Pikes page, which is an amazing resource:

The Friendship Option

It has been recently shown, under actual combat conditions, that the destructive magical power of all four Princesses together is roughly equivalent to that of all ordinary ponies in Equestria, plus one draconequus.

It has also been recently shown, under actual combat conditions, that both of these combined pale before the sheer reconstructive power of the friendship of a mere six civilian ponies. The nations around Equestria are naturally showing grave concern about this development. Approximately a month after this development, a promising Griffon scientist has been constructing a thesis on counteracting the power the princesses have, only stating that "Even the tiniest of things in existence can make two enemies see eye to eye". The Imperial Griffon government is expected to hear this thesis in full sometime within the year.

:D

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#33259: May 19th 2014 at 1:40:48 PM

Maybe Alicorn magic stacks Exponentially, while normal pony magic is Linear.

EDIT: Also, Latest one-shot just went live.

edited 19th May '14 1:44:10 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#33260: May 19th 2014 at 1:51:28 PM

[up][up][up]I didn't intend my previous post to be a complaint—as someone who hasn't edited something for someone else in a pretty long time, I certainly don't begrudge anyone else for being busy. wink

I respect the opinions of everyone in this thread, but at some point one needs to step outside their comfort zone if they want to grow as a writer. Not only because people might be busy, but because varying your editors can help you see problems that others might have missed. I try and get at least one editor I have never worked with before on all my stories, and so far it has been a good experience. If You Came to Conquer had some of the most relevant advice from the editor I hadn't worked with, and the ones I had ended up repeating some of his advice tongue.

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#33261: May 19th 2014 at 1:56:34 PM

[up]It was more of a general statement than anything. Several people have given me helpful feedback and I feel kinda bad that I can't contribute more. tongue Unfortunately, right now I'm trying to juggle my ongoing story, finishing up some unfinished oneshots (which has been going well; I've knocked out three of them, two of which went up on EQD and the third hasn't gotten a response yet), and trying to get my original stuff started.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#33262: May 19th 2014 at 2:06:42 PM

@ Power Imbalance: it's the sort of thing authors rarely think about, but, well, the Elements of Friendship are a threat that dwarfs Superman in terms of political danger. Thankfully this is not Watchmen and the Princesses would never dare ask for the Elements to be used in international conflict... right?

Also, I've been reading Tolstoi's War And Peace recently and it's such a lot of fun! It violates about a billion rules of Show, Don't Tell and Purple Prose and Department of Redundancy Department and whatnot, and it does it with panache. The characters are fleshy, the plot is is flowy, the humour and irony are snappy. It kicks ass.

I wonder if we have any long pony stories in that style?

edited 19th May '14 2:10:39 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33263: May 19th 2014 at 2:10:59 PM

Given that the elements are specifically tied to social interaction, it's entirely possible that they might not even work if you tried to use them in a situation that didn't merit it. I.e. if you're in a state of mind where you're willing to blast someone who doesn't deserve it, you likely wouldn't be in the right state of mind to use the elements anyway. The power is directly tied to attitude; it might not be possible to misuse them in that way.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#33264: May 19th 2014 at 2:23:19 PM

I'd have to disagree. A lot of war is about fighting for your friends in The Squad, your Band of Brothers, your Fire-Forged Friends, againt "Them." Whether the Enemy deserves the violence isn't even part of the question.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
BornIn1142 from Estonia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33265: May 19th 2014 at 2:24:16 PM

This is from the Ponies With Pikes page, which is an amazing resource...

The mentions of the Yugoslavian conflict and Somalian civil war on that page are pretty much tasteless enough to overshadow everything else on it.

edited 19th May '14 2:26:12 PM by BornIn1142

Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#33266: May 19th 2014 at 2:25:31 PM

can anyone explain to me what the hell is going on with this story? it's a part of a big string of "This story is a sequel to..." links that eventually loops back to itself.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#33267: May 19th 2014 at 2:34:28 PM

But we've never seen the Elements effect anything that isn't a massive, magical evil abomination. So regardless of state of mind, it's likely the target also matters. It can't just zap anything and destroy it or convert it, only purge or contain certain evil powers.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33268: May 19th 2014 at 2:58:39 PM

@Handle: That's true in real life, but there's no indication that Equestria works the same way. Like Seraphem said, there's never been an indication where any sort of "Friendship magic" has ever been used against a foe who didn't deserve it. The fact that the magic is literally powered by positive attitudes and emotions leads me to believe that it wouldn't work if it was used out of malice or selfishness. War may have an Us vs. Them mentality, but the show's emphasis on social interaction leads me to think that it would attempt to get rid of the Us v.s Them dichotomy and try to find a better solution.

The only gray area is in the case of a conflict where there neither side is "bad" so to speak; like two groups fighting over a limited resource that both have legitimate claims to. And even then I'm not sure the elements would work.

edited 19th May '14 3:00:02 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#33269: May 19th 2014 at 3:00:02 PM

@The Handle: The fact that other nations have been becoming uncomfortable with the massive increases in power that Equestria has been getting recently is quite important in my fanverse.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#33270: May 19th 2014 at 3:02:15 PM

[up]And those threats, I could see the Elements smacking down. If ANYONE needs a massive rainbow powered friendship enema it's Noa.

Jimmmyman10 cannot into space from polan Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#33271: May 19th 2014 at 3:09:27 PM

[up][up]Now I want someone to write that story: a universe where, due to time travel shenanigans and a stable time loop every story is actually a sequel to another story, going down forever.

Also, do we know anything about smoking in the pony universe? Has anything resembling cigarettes or ashtrays or drugs or anything every shown up? just a random question.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#33272: May 19th 2014 at 3:12:14 PM

Nope, nothing even close that I can think of. Well except for how Pinkie Pie acts.

CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Bully in the Alley
#33273: May 19th 2014 at 3:12:16 PM

I think the ability to shoot magic lasers, create sieges and droughts with weather, and fly and have super durability would be more important wartime commodities than the Elements of Harmony (regardless of how the latter work mechanically). The threat of superweapons come from repeatability and reliability, not simply their potency. In fact, I once had a plot bunny about just that, but I never did anything with it.

edited 19th May '14 3:13:55 PM by CleverPun

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33274: May 19th 2014 at 3:21:48 PM

Yeah, the ponies already had the market cornered on superweapons what with the whole controlling the sun thing. The elements of harmony are powerful, but that's all they are. They aren't very versatile or applicable to precise situations.

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#33275: May 19th 2014 at 3:25:54 PM

So what do you guys think about a Bravely Default crossover. Enlong says that it wouldn't work and I have my doubts for how it happening without Canon Defilement


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