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First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.

With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.

First, a few starter questions.

  • How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
  • Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
    • Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
  • Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
  • Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?

Also, a personal question from me.

  • Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#18526: Oct 7th 2018 at 5:52:48 PM

Interesting bit of intersectionality news - after staying very, very quiet about her overt white supremacist following for years, Taylor Swift is voting and campaigning for the Democrats. Kavanaugh may have shaken some significant leaves loose from the tree.

Awesome, it's always nice to see White Supremacists getting snubbed by a famous figure in a productive manner. Especially if it's a famous figure who's works I've enjoyed.

It's nice to see someone using their fame to productively benefit the Greater Good of society.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 7th 2018 at 8:52:25 AM

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#18527: Oct 7th 2018 at 6:01:30 PM

Good on her. I never seriously thought Swift was a right-wing sympathizer but despite all the controversy it's good that she came out and said this.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 7th 2018 at 9:01:22 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#18528: Oct 7th 2018 at 6:48:49 PM

This is amusingly ironic after all the people worshipping her as some kind of "Aryan goddess".

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18529: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:01:12 PM

TBH, I never liked Taylor Swift's work — her attempts to reinvent herself just didn't click with me. Her remaining reluctant to address the elephant in the living room that was her white supremacist following didn't help.

She has been rather consistent when it comes to supporting women's rights as a whole (I think), so it makes sense that she would eventually decide to vote against Marsha Blackburn, who was a major fan of Phyllis Schafly.

Seriously, Marsha Blackburn considered Phyllis Schafly an idol and the "gold standard" of the conservative movement. And considering Schafly was apparently the real life inspiration of Serena Lovejoy from The Handmaid's Tale...

Edited by M84 on Oct 7th 2018 at 10:04:38 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhysicalStamina so i made a new avatar from Who's askin'? Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
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#18530: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:21:52 PM

I don't know who Phyllis Schafly is.

To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#18531: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:23:23 PM

The biggest Female Misogynist imaginable, basically. I mean maybe not literally but she's up there.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18532: Oct 7th 2018 at 7:33:32 PM

She was the Female Misogynist. I am not exaggerating one iota.

And Marsha Blackburn idolized this person.

Edited by M84 on Oct 7th 2018 at 10:36:46 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#18533: Oct 8th 2018 at 4:24:42 AM

Never heard of Phyllis Schafly either,and her wikipedia page..yikes,she was opposed to Roe vs Wade and actively campaigned against the Equal Rights Amendment,were she still around I wonder if she would have supported Donald Trump,in all probably she would have.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18534: Oct 8th 2018 at 4:27:59 AM

She did support Trump. Trump also spoke out in praise of her at her funeral.

BTW, her son Andrew Schafly is the guy who made Conservapedia.

Given all this, it's no wonder Taylor Swift or any supporter of womens' rights would be terrified by the idea of a fan of Schafly becoming a Senator. Especially after Kavanaugh joined the Supreme Court.

Edited by M84 on Oct 8th 2018 at 7:30:16 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#18535: Oct 8th 2018 at 4:34:15 AM

Schafly running for president and winning is the worst timeline

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#18536: Oct 8th 2018 at 9:00:32 AM

Specially telling consideing that by some standar, schafly is pretty much a self made woman who have pursuit her own carrier and is a sort of independent woman....

And decide to atack feminism.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#18537: Oct 8th 2018 at 9:25:43 AM

Phyllis Schafly is more than just the female misogynist, but she is also a damn hypocrite. For someone who always talk about woman not acting like what a woman should be, she doesn't practice what she preach.

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18538: Oct 8th 2018 at 10:55:32 AM

Like I said, she is the real life inspiration for Serena Lovejoy. The difference is that Lovejoy was in a work of fiction and thus received some karmic comeuppance. Schafly was a real person and thus did not suffer a bit for her awful deeds because real life doesn't have narrative causality.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#18539: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:35:13 AM

Her son made the conservapedia, didn't he?

Where there's life, there's hope.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18540: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:37:36 AM

Yes, yes he did.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#18541: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:38:58 AM

I'm gonna regret asking, but what is "Conservapedia"?

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#18542: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:39:47 AM

Rational Wiki exists to oppose it. That's all you need to know.

Where there's life, there's hope.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#18543: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:40:38 AM

Basically, someone thought Wikipedia was too "liberal" and decided to make a "proper" Wiki to replace it.

It just gets worse from there. Seriously, don't visit it. Not even for Bile Fascination.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#18544: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:50:48 AM

Also they blocked non US IP addresses from editing

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#18545: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:24:59 PM

"her awful deeds because real life doesn't have narrative causality. "

Mostly because she didnt get so far as hand tale so that is good so far.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#18546: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:26:08 PM

I'm gonna regret asking, but what is "Conservapedia"?

Imagine Wikipedia.

But the editors and articles are all built by Type 2 Americans who think the One Nation Under God, means that the US is a completely christian nation, think the South losing Civil War the worst thing that ever happened to the US, everything is written under the conservative bible belt (AKA Dumbfuckstain) optic and history is essentially Fudd lore.

At one point the whole website was targeted by trolls, who'd make the articles sound as extreme and stupid as possible. Which was amusing on itself when the actual writers and moderators were having trouble figuring out which parts were legit and which were trolling attempts.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#18547: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:44:30 PM

There was a time where the site couldn't go a few months without having a troll worm their way into their staff.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#18549: Oct 8th 2018 at 5:38:37 PM

I would say that is way more important than what you imply. This means that they're so commited to be as.Uber conservative as possible that deny that they might get some words wrong.

Watch me destroying my country
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#18550: Oct 8th 2018 at 6:18:03 PM

In fact, acording to Rational wiki, TJ the second in comand who did a "purge" was a in a fact a troll, something many didnt know at all.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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