First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
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Yeah, while telling someone You Are a Credit to Your Race linguistically may be meant as a compliment it’s still very much problematic.
Oh and the “where are you really from?” thing happens plenty in the UK, I know a local government person who has spoken about it happened to her due to her being of South-Asian decent.
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'Crying Nazi' Chris Cantwell was sentenced to 41 Months in prison over extortion and rape threats
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Good riddance.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Glad to see one Nazi got what he deserved.
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The poet said she showed her keys and entered her apartment building after which he left.
“No apology,” she said of the interaction’s ending. “This is the reality of black girls: One day you’re called an icon, the next day, a threat.”
When I first read the headline I thought maybe she'd had to get security to watch her because of threats from Qultists for daring to be part of an """illegitimate""" inauguration. Nope, it was just bog-standard anti-Black racism.
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I lol'd. Can you imagine, vividly, for a second, yourself being known on the internet as the "crying nazi"? Must be humiliating beyond comparison.
And on Gorman, I mean, she kinda looks suspicious, I can't blame security.
Edited by gc10 on Mar 7th 2021 at 1:23:08 PM
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Especially for a group that thrives on toxic masculinity.
And the rep doesn't come from some kind of moment where the crying could be claimed as Manly Tears. Dude bawled his eyes out because he was singled out following Charlottesville. I can't remember if he was a suspect in the death there, but he was put into the spotlight regardless.
Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 7th 2021 at 6:48:32 AM
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Cantwell has pretty much alienated everyone. He doxed and snitched on several people from the Alt-Right to save his own sorry hide.
In fact, this very prison sentence is due to him threatening the family of some other Nazi.
It would not surprise me if he'd get picked on by the Aryan Brotherhood in prison.
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Facebook Is Reportedly Under Investigation for 'Systemic' Racial Bias in Its Workplace
Facebook’s hiring practices and promotions are under federal scrutiny following reports of widespread racial bias, according to Reuters. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has launched a “systemic” investigation into the social media giant, indicating that it suspects internal policies may be contributing to a top-down culture of discrimination.
In July, Facebook operations program manager Oscar Veneszee Jr., who is Black, filed a complaint with the EEOC along with two applicants he recruited that Facebook later rejected. A third rejected applicant joined the case in December. The complaint, which they told NPR was filed on behalf of “all Black Facebook employees and applicants to Facebook,” alleges that the company fails to provide equal career opportunities for its Black workers, employs subjective evaluations that promote racial stereotypes, and discriminates against Black candidates. In short, Facebook has “a Black people problem,” Veneszee said at the time.
Reuters first reported the EEOC probe’s “systemic” designation on Friday, a notable development that could potentially pave the way for a class-action lawsuit down the line. The agency handles cases of purported workplace discrimination, often settling complaints through mediation or facilitating lawsuits against employers. But, as the outlet notes, the EEOC hasn’t brought specific allegations against Facebook at this time, and its investigation—which could last months—may very well turn up nothing.
Facebook did not immediately return Gizmodo’s request for comment, but we’ll update this blog when we hear back.
It’s far from the first time Facebook has come under fire for its lack of diversity. Just 3.9% of the company’s U.S. workforce is Black, and that figure drops to 3.4% among leadership positions, per Facebook’s most recent diversity report.
In November 2019, a dozen anonymous employees published a Medium post exposing the discrimination and racism they experienced while working at Facebook. An update published a few weeks later detailed the backlash from upper management after the first post went viral as well as the excuses and half-hearted apologies Facebook offered instead of any meaningful commitments to foster a company culture that would attract and retain Black workers. In 2018, a former Facebook manager, Mark Luckie, published a memo on Facebook that he emailed to coworkers on his last day there accusing the company of “failing its Black employees and its Black users.” Perhaps not coincidentally, Facebook briefly removed the post for violating its community standards but later reversed the decision.
Facebook spokesperson Andy Stone declined Reuters’ request for comment on the allegations or the status of EEOC’s investigation, but said “it is essential to provide all employees with a respectful and safe working environment.”
“We take any allegations of discrimination seriously and investigate every case,” he told the outlet.
Reminds me of a story were a bunch of racists stabbed eachother over dumb shit.
so i made a new avatar
Really feeling good about my decision to delete my Facebook account right now.
Now if only we could gather all of them in a single place with lots of knifes to go around.
I will be a night of knives, long, long knives.
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British Prince Harry and Megan Merkle had an interview with Oprah. There are a couple of pieces within:
- Harry was told by a person close to a large number of newspaper editors that the family would be destroyed by the press specifically because the British press is very bigoted.
- An unnamed someone within the royal institution told the couple they were worried about how dark their son Archie's skin would be.
Edited by tclittle on Mar 8th 2021 at 7:46:06 AM
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They should have named whoever made such comments, that would have been fairer towards the rest of the family. If it was - as many suspect - Prince Phillip, then exposing William and Charles to this suspicion is hardly fair.
I sympathize deeply with her but it's not surprising in the least that the royal family, a rich white institution that benefited off centuries of colonialism, would also turn out to be racist on a personal level.
The cherry on top is that Markle, a light-skinned biracial woman with Eurocentric features, is already what Zendaya calls "Hollywood's acceptable version of a black [woman]". Had Harry courted someone darker I imagine the backlash would have been much worse.
Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 8th 2021 at 10:02:10 AM
And the backlash was already bad, if you remember the way some media outlets were reporting on the marriage from the start.
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But Ramseyer apparently wasn’t going to let something small like documented history distract him from the point he was trying to make. Ramseyer’s paper was due to be published in the March issue of the International Review of Law and Economics, but as The Guardian reports, the issue is being suspended over concerns about Ramseyer’s writings. In the abstract for his academic paper, Ramseyer lays out his belief that the women in the brothels and the brothel owners came to mutually beneficial terms for sex work including, “a large advance with one- or two-year maximum terms, with (ii) an ability for the women to leave early if they generated sufficient revenue.” So not only were women knowingly going into a brothel, he suggests, they were negotiating favorable terms for themselves.
However, Ramseyer’s colleagues could not find any historical evidence of such contracts existing. In a statement requesting the retraction of Ramseyer’s paper, two historians, also from Harvard, noted, “We do not see how Ramseyer can make credible claims, in extremely emphatic wording, about contracts he has not read.”
As of today, the South Korean government recognizes 16 women who lived through sexual enslavement in a war zone. Ramseyer referred to them in his paper as “women who have had a rough life.”
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X4 I believe they’ve specifically ruled out either Charles or the Queen being the one who said that. It’s not even clear if it was an actual royal or one of the officials who does the running of the royal household.
The problem with naming the person is that it opens up a huge world of legal liable, also it’s possible that Harry and Megan are hoping to have some kind of relationships with the other royals at some point and that would make it even more difficult.
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So, I've been digging around the figures of the Atlantic slave trade and I see that apparently some of them were brought to Europe. How many was "some"?
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I believe it was Phillip and the Queen they ruled out, not Charles. Indeed, Harry basically said that Charles was one of the absolute worst of the marriage and is no longer taking his calls.
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IIRC if the Queen had any objections to the marriage, she could have stopped it, he needed royal permission to marry. Of course of she refused Harry might have just buggered off then and there forgoing his titles/rank and married her anyway.
I've been curious about that myself, since there were some prominent black Britons in the 18th century (i.e. Ignatius Sancho), and it's pretty common to see black servants or slaves depicted in paintings of the rich.
According to Wikipedia, there were about 10,000 black Britons in 1800. I realize that this doesn't exactly capture the number of slaves brought to England, and some of that number had probably been in England for a lot longer), but I think it gives some idea.
This website has some estimates. You can set the settings to look at embarkation/disembarkation.
To put it another way, you might've said it to them for the first time. They've probably heard it for the millionth.
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