Metal Gear/ Metal Gear Solid

A thread for......metal gear!? Sorry couldn't resist. I swear I would look forward to any new guns I got in number 4. After all, with so many willing victi, er ....subjects to test them on, you gotta think why the hell not?

I'm not the only closet serial killer on this forum, am I?

Here's hoping Rising sates my bloodlust quite well!

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Oh god Rising....that looks very interesting. Far more gory then anything in the series so far, and everything else about it is different as well

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Rising looks like fun. Hopefully the speed stealth (or whatever they called it) will be fun. If its not, I'm sure slicing up random people is.

Okay, I have run into yet another seemingly unreachable item in a Metal Gear game.

The game, Portable Ops. The area: The Ravine. The situation: There is an item located on a cliff that there seems to be no way of reaching. The only guess I can manage is there must be some secret cave I can blow open that leads to it (I didn't bring any TNT with me when I played this level so I couldn't test my theory during my pass).

Am I on the right track?

Also considering, should I go back, revisit previous areas and stock up on good items/recruits or should I just plunge on ahead?

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So this is a thing.

So there is a Yoshi in Snake Eater 3d

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=159780

Calling it now: You will be able to eat a Yoshi as a Call-Back

It better.

Wonder what they're going to recycle from MGS 4 and Peace Walker into the MGS 3 remake.

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Just so long I can attach balloons to people's asses in HD, I don't care what they recycle.

I'd probably be grossed out if you can set a yoshi to eat people. Zombies I can stand. Yoshis, not so much.

ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.

But the real question is.... how does it taste?

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Okay, I just beat Portable Ops. Got Kerotan rank. Didn't do half the "recruit a special character" sidequests simply because I didn't know they existed (I try to play without walkthrus the first time). Tranq-killed every boss except Gene (I was expecting to have to fight Metal Gear again so I didn't bring my tranq gun along).

Capsule review:

Liked:

• Overall the plot feels like it does fit in to the greater MGS universe, and bridge a few gaps (though there is one plot point I could do without).
• This was the first MGS where I seriously used gimmicks like dirty magazines and the ga-ko.
• Recruiting soldiers, though I got tired of it near the end of the game.
• The radar system. It's not Soliton, but it does its job. God why couldn't they have thought of this for MGS 3...

Disliked:

• Null, the Perfect Soldier turns out to be Gray Fox. While there's no reason this can't work in the greater series canon, it felt kind of like an arbitrary connection, of the "Anakin used to race against Greedo" variety.
• A lot of the naunces of gameplay aren't hinted or explained properly by the documentation (like that Sense affects a spy unit's efficiency—I didn't learn that until I began drafting this post).
• No option for a fixed camera.
• As much fun as recruiting a team was, they didn't really serve much purpose, unless I was on an item-collecting or recruitment spree (so really, only Rescuers and Deliverymen were useful to me). Most of the time I played it like regular MGS, and Snake could just as easily have been solo. I also don't see why the game let's you make four teams when realistically you're probably going to just use Alpha for every mission (which is what I did).

... So now I need to pick up either Solid 4 or Peace Walker. Or else take some time-out and try out the Acid games.

edited 4th Jun '11 12:58:36 AM by MoeDantes

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The Acid games make it really hard to play the game in a stealthy or nonviolent manner... then again, they are also turn-based, and Snake and bosses can take an insane amount of punishment.

Yet, playing them in full stealth is obscenely gratifying. Also, next to impossible on over half the levels. But they are exceptionally fun =)

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Well, I got both Peace Walker and Snake's Revenge today. I'm too tired to start right now so I'll tackle Peace Walker tomorrow (and Snake's Revenge whenever I feel like hooking up my NES).

As far as I know, the only MGS games I don't have (besides the mobile phone ones) are Solid 4, Acid 1 and The VR Missions. I'm not entirely sure I'm going to get that last one. Some of the missions sound interesting, but if its anything like the VR modes of Ghost Babel and Solid 2 then you have to go through a bunch of bullshit training missions to unlock them.

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Didn't Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater: Subsistence have the first 2 Metal Gears on it? Are those worth playing?

Yes it did (note though that they're NOT in "the Essential Collection.")

Personally I thought Metal Gear 1 was okay but Metal Gear 2 was pretty good. My only major complaints are:

A) Some of the puzzles are kind of obtuse.
B) Konami didn't provide all the "copy-protection" information you need in their documentation (however, I've since made my own errata that I can share with you if you so desire).
C) Unlike the Solid games, Keycards don't get replaced by the next one up, which results in situations where a door is locked and you have to try every keycard you have to get it to work (Metal Gear 2 though allows you to find Red, Blue and Green cards that work for multiple doors, which mitigates the issue somewhat).

If you can put up with these flaws, then they're worth playing.

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They are replicated verbatim in Ghost Babel in Solid 2 with the exception of a few novelty missions like Mystery Mode and Ninja Mode. And IIRC, at least in the PC version they are unlocked from the get-go.

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So basically, VR Missions is worth getting only if I can find it really cheap, huh?

Hey, I got another question: Does the PC version add an option to aim and fire in first-person? I don't need it much for the main game but I don't see how most of the time attacks can be completed without it.

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VR Missions is plenty fun. You love the simple gameplay of MGS 1, so I know you'll enjoy it.

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No, no version of MGS 1 lets you shoot in first-person. Look around yes, as of Integral, IIRC, but not shoot.

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One more question: how many discs are in the PC version of the first Solid? I'm thinking of getting the PC version not just for the VR missions, but also for the novelty of it (and yes, I do have a computer that can run it).

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What about that one version of MGS 1? The one on the Gamecube?

You mean Twin Snakes AKA Metal Gear Solid As Done By a Generic Action Movie Director?