This needs a new name: Innocent Fanservice Girl

Really, there's no reason for it to have the words "Fanservice" or "Girl", since there are plenty of male and non-sexual examples.

Not only that, but I remember thinking the other day that I wondered if we had what I would consider an actual Innocent Fanservice Girl/Boy trope, for someone of either sex who's incredibly hot and attracts a lot of attention, but is either oblivious to or embarrassed by said attention, without necessarily being naked or sexily-dressed.

Clueless Chick-Magnet

We have a redirect for Innocent Fanservice Boy. It's common practice to use the more common gender as the trope name, even when it applies to both. If you think it's being misused, do a wick check.

This. Can we demonstrate any misuse? I see absolutely nothing wrong with the title as it stands.

The only reason i can think of for someone so have a problem about this would be like this crap. Why is that thread still opened?

If the title is a problem, just swap it with the No Nudity Taboo redirect.

Innocent Fanservice Girl found in: 622 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 1,361 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Let's make sure we have a problem before doing anything drastic.

Fixed the tag.

I see the point with the boy/girl thing, but even without that the bigger issue is that there are so many non-fanservice examples. I agree that it should just be No Nudity Taboo, which fits the trope perfectly in every case.

Not every Innocent Fanservice Girl actually involves Nudity though. (I think the trope is fine.)

edited 11th May '11 5:42:11 PM by Raso

Over six hundred wicks, and over a THOUSAND inbound links. You better prove misuse before you start even idly tossing around rename options. Proof that it's broken lies with you. I say it isn't. Prove me wrong or walk away.

...okay, that's a little extreme, but I don't disagree. If you really think this is being misused as "underage girl who doesn't understand her own attractiveness" (which seems to be the problem you think it has), do a wick check. Otherwise, there's no need for a rename—not even just swapping to a redirect.

Also, since this point hasn't been brought up yet, not all Fanservice is sexual (as specifically stated on that page), so having non-sexual examples on this trope makes perfect sense under the definitions used here.

So for that reason, along with others mentioned, I'm going to have to side with the "no misuse" camp.

If you really think this is being misused as "underage girl who doesn't understand her own attractiveness" (which seems to be the problem you think it has)

I'm pretty sure that that would fall straight into this trope.

Unless that's only how it's being used. Which it's not. So we're good.

Anyone wanna do a Wick check? How much would be sufficient?

I'll sample the classic ptitles. Let's see:

Misuse:

• Can't Act Perverted Toward a Love Interest*
  ^{Wow, first on the list. That was fast}
  (Fate Stay Night)

Unclear:

• Can't Bathe Without a Weapon (Dragonlance Chronicles) - pothole
• DarthWiki.Ptitle18cp12rm
• ptitle1qb7j2ee
• ptitlehk0aix10
• ptitlegynukzwikxmd
• DarthWiki.ptitled96cm1v5

Correct or exempt:

• Es Otherwise (Wiki Word)
• Fanfic.Ptitle0028gzjm (?)
• ptitlek47kl0xo
• ptitle5w3hc6z54tky (pothole)

Not exactly a large sample, but it's a start.

edited 12th May '11 6:23:15 PM by Stratadrake

Whats the misuse on Fate Stay Night?

Oops, wrong link. It's from Can't Act Perverted Toward a Love Interest, in the example of Fate Stay Night. Context is this:

• In Fate Stay Night, when [[InnocentFanserviceGirl Saber]] develops feelings for Shiro, she starts to act embarrassed about him seeing her naked and care about lack of endowments.

edited 12th May '11 6:24:42 PM by Stratadrake

That's...a subversion? Aversion? Anyway, she was an Innocent Fanservice Girl, and remains such if Shirou doesn't romance her.

Well for Ranma Shampoo is a classic example of this as well as Ranma him/herself which is a hot button issue with Akane for both. (I can post manga panels for both if ya want.)

edited 12th May '11 7:17:45 PM by Raso

@ Raso: Good point. So — time to split?

@ 32 Footsteps: yes, though mentioning how a character fits in non-typical cases would prevent such misunderstandings.

edited 12th May '11 8:22:10 PM by TBeholder

Wait, what? Raso wasn't suggesting a split. Go take a look at Fanservice. Fanservice doesn't require nudity, just something that the fans want to see.

Quote, that article: "Fanservice also consists of things designed to please longtime dedicated fans: Shout-Outs, Bonus Material, in-jokes, etc.. "

edited 13th May '11 8:36:47 AM by savage

I was more talking about the fact that this is more than just "Nudity" as Bikinis and Stripperific outfits could get this too depending on how and where it's handled. Haruhi changing without a care in a class room with guys still in it, would only get her down to a bra and panties but is still a very good example of this (Asakura tossed all the guys out of the room fast.)

I think the name is perfectly fine.

edited 13th May '11 12:44:00 PM by Raso