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    Original OP 
(I saw Allan mention the lack of one so I thought I'd make one.)

Recent political stuff:

  • The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
  • Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
  • The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.

A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

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#39576: Oct 20th 2019 at 11:02:00 AM

I don't think Johnson will go that far. All he has to do is maintain this narrative that he wants to get brexit done, can get brexit done, and that it's just everyone else opposing him. Besides, i don't think the EU will fall for transparent veto attempts. Even Hungary has nothing to gain by frustrating brexit.

The EU has little to lose from an extension, other than lengthening an endlessly frustrating track. Denying them, however, will be bad for them. They don't want to be seen as the ones frustrating brexit. If the UK asks, they'll grant one, no matter how much Johnson personally may not want one.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#39577: Oct 20th 2019 at 12:07:40 PM

Maybe but it feel that for some, the UK is playing a prank that have goes waaaaay to far and as wearing thin a this moment, "Fuck you EU we dont need you, now please wait were....and kept waiting....and kept waiting".

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#39578: Oct 20th 2019 at 12:28:11 PM

There needs to be a certain level of pressure to keep MPs moving towards something, but neither the majority of the Commons nor basically anyone else wants an accidental no deal whilst it can be avoided. So long as something is happening there's not a good reason to withhold further extensions.

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#39579: Oct 20th 2019 at 12:43:12 PM

I don't think it would be fair for anyone to complain about this particular delay when it only was done to eliminate any chance of a no deal, while the vote on Johnson's agreement was postponed by only a mere two or three days.

Life is unfair...
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#39580: Oct 20th 2019 at 4:10:44 PM

Because the hard-core Leavers decided that this delay killed Brexit forever.

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#39581: Oct 20th 2019 at 4:13:10 PM

If only.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#39582: Oct 20th 2019 at 6:15:22 PM

Then my all means, what would take to kill brexit forever?

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#39583: Oct 20th 2019 at 6:16:57 PM

Well, to be fair, the longer the clusterfuck drags on, the more likely it is that either Parliament or a referendum will throw up their hands and decide to Remain.

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#39584: Oct 20th 2019 at 6:21:00 PM

The death of Rupert Murdoch might do it.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 20th 2019 at 3:10:27 PM

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#39585: Oct 20th 2019 at 7:46:58 PM

A lot of British media would need to undergo some major reforms to kill Brexit forever. As long as British media continues to feed the whole "fuck Europe" narrative, the desire for Brexit will linger on like a bad stench.

Edited by M84 on Oct 20th 2019 at 10:49:21 PM

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#39586: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:18:31 AM

So Bercow blocked today's vote on the deal, and has shifted in "no fucks left to give" mode when it comes to throwing shade at the Brexiteers accusing him of bias.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
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#39587: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:50:25 AM

[up][up] Labour implementing Leveson would be a start. Hence Labour continue to be the country's best chance at defeating Brexit - both in the short and long terms.

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#39588: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:52:58 AM

Well that explains why the media keeps slating them then.

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#39589: Oct 21st 2019 at 9:10:55 AM

Why do I have the feeling that once this whole excruciatingly tiresome ordeal is over (one way or the other), there will be folks who'll just drop on the spot and sleep for a week or so just to recover all the energy they used up thought it?

That said, if BJ (the "Big Boy") does ask for extension, what happens next after that and how will the sides take it?

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#39590: Oct 21st 2019 at 9:15:06 AM

[up][up]Doesn't it just?

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#39591: Oct 21st 2019 at 9:18:34 AM

I suspect that should the extension be granted we will get a quick VONC followed by an election.

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#39592: Oct 21st 2019 at 9:51:26 AM

That is if it's granted, there's also the possibility that the EU would impose some conditions to the extension to get things going.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
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#39593: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:04:22 AM

It will be granted, No Deal is still worse for the EU than letting this farce continue - the interesting thing will indeed be if any conditions are attached, and how much of an extension will be granted. I've heard the end of January floated about, and I hope that's wrong because that's not enough time to do much of anything.

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#39594: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:18:17 AM

Is 10 days really enough to pass an extension though?

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#39595: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:26:02 AM

It’s enough time for an election, I think.

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#39596: Oct 21st 2019 at 11:34:30 AM

Elections need six weeks.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#39597: Oct 21st 2019 at 11:38:03 AM

It’s the end of January, so we’d have 12 weeks minus Christmas.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
TommyR01D Since: Feb, 2015
#39598: Oct 21st 2019 at 11:45:15 AM

Today the Northern Ireland Assembly convened for the first time since 2017. The sitting was abandoned when MLAs failed to muster a cross-community majority for a new speaker, without which further business could not proceed.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#39599: Oct 21st 2019 at 11:56:27 AM

As a result, despite the best efforts of the DUP abortion and same-gender marriage are now legal in Northern Ireland.

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#39600: Oct 21st 2019 at 12:13:01 PM

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